Action scenes on Terminus were side by side with the GOT last episodes! Logic has left the room!
Please no more dumb stuff!
Everything else was good.
Please no more dumb stuff!
Everything else was good.
40 Reviews
Hope this action scenes will not repeat
LayllasLocker15 November 2021
Everything comes together
GwydionMW12 November 2021
We see the threads of crisis bring everyone together on Terminus. Having changed the plot, it looks like we proceed on something like the book.
Meantime on Trantor, the story of Brother Dawn has some unexpected twists.
And may feed back in the final episode into the odd religious experience of Brother Day.
Meantime on Trantor, the story of Brother Dawn has some unexpected twists.
And may feed back in the final episode into the odd religious experience of Brother Day.
Getting Epic
chrisforeman-0192013 November 2021
Its beginning to have the look and feel of an epic Sci-Fi series. The writers have come up with some good twists and turns and some very clever ways of keeping characters going. Anyone who has read the books should know that characters don't, in the main, stay around long. The Cleon genetic dynasty as a case in point. Clever. There does seem some constant negativity about not being Azimov's foundation. But Azimov's foundation was strongly routed in late 40's early 50's Americana. It would never translate directly to a modern audience.
I quote off the top of my head 'You already have a 100,000 followers on Terminus', 'Yes but not all are scientist, some are women and children'!
Really !
I quote off the top of my head 'You already have a 100,000 followers on Terminus', 'Yes but not all are scientist, some are women and children'!
Really !
Fantastic Episode - Starting to Feel Epic
scottmannen112 November 2021
This show is starting to be amazing. Quite a bit of cringe in this episode, but overall it's blossoming into something fantastic and epic.
Whoever wrote the script for this show should definitely feel good about achieving something great, especially because the show does not mimic the book and yet it is still great.
Whoever wrote the script for this show should definitely feel good about achieving something great, especially because the show does not mimic the book and yet it is still great.
Would be better but ..
hamoudovic16 November 2021
Please give Lee pace more time on the screen, and kill salvor for god sake. She struggles with basic emotions, basic reactions. I don't know why we don't put people who really give the show a real value more. The most annoying thing in this show is salvor and her boyfriend they are more fake than tiktok.
World class episode
alexleizerovichcoaching12 November 2021
Wonderfully combined all novels story
raziasultanain12 November 2021
Like everyone I was also waiting for this TV Series eagerly. I had only read Wikipedia of the novels to understand the story line. Therefore, all the flashback and future story shown in episodes I knew will combine together. I saw lot of negative ratings and comments, even from people who have read the actual novels. I don't understand why they disliked the modern approach or expected tv series can cover so many novels in a linear timeline, within just few episodes. I totally love the way story has been covered, future elements added, important characters shown. I started to get influenced from negative comments and I am very happy to say that this episode made me happy and I dare negative commentators to stop watching in case they don't understand what is sci-fi 😁
It's pretty damned good
cpicklesesq13 November 2021
I've read the books and I've seen the show, and I think the books are great (well the original trilogy, less so the sequels and prequels) and I'm very much enjoying the show. I'll be bereft after the season finishes, so long to wait!
Reading the comments it's interesting that someone can write a long post explaining in some detail why they like the show, and get a majorly 'unhelpful' rating, while someone can write something to the effect of 'this show sucks' and somehow this pithy response is rated very helpful indeed.
Clearly there are a lot of people on here with axes to grind. I'd say to anyone looking in who hasn't seen the show yet - don't let 'em grind their axes on you, watch the show and make your own mind up.
It's not perfect, some of the dialogue is a bit clunky, some of the action scenes are a bit rushed and maybe overcomplicated, and there are a few points where you think, well that wouldn't happen. Grist for a nitpicker's guide mill perhaps, but there's a sweep, an overarching story, and some great imagination at work to realise this. And Asimov's story is always there behind everything.
At least give it a chance. This is series one. I'd say as season ones go, this is a pretty good one.
Reading the comments it's interesting that someone can write a long post explaining in some detail why they like the show, and get a majorly 'unhelpful' rating, while someone can write something to the effect of 'this show sucks' and somehow this pithy response is rated very helpful indeed.
Clearly there are a lot of people on here with axes to grind. I'd say to anyone looking in who hasn't seen the show yet - don't let 'em grind their axes on you, watch the show and make your own mind up.
It's not perfect, some of the dialogue is a bit clunky, some of the action scenes are a bit rushed and maybe overcomplicated, and there are a few points where you think, well that wouldn't happen. Grist for a nitpicker's guide mill perhaps, but there's a sweep, an overarching story, and some great imagination at work to realise this. And Asimov's story is always there behind everything.
At least give it a chance. This is series one. I'd say as season ones go, this is a pretty good one.
This show is like the handmaid's tale series in terms of adaptation.
arthuroliveira-6536712 November 2021
In the penultimate episode of the first season, it is noticed that The Apple Foundation series works like Hulu Streaming's adaptation of another famous fiction book, Handmaid's tale.
The work Handmaid's tale is another fiction classic adapted by streaming and as a foundation, it has its story well extended and modified to build a series of 10 episodes.
And in both cases the two series work, even though they are different from the book and only take the basic ideas and introduce several new concepts and stories.
Funny that no one complained about the Handmaid tale adaptation, but strongly criticizes the Apple Foundation.
Both series create new concepts and invented parallel stories that are not in the top books.
This shows not as a negative, as Handmaid's tale is acclaimed on Hulu and has won several important emmys.
The same applies to the apple foundation. It´s an amazing series in its own way.
The work Handmaid's tale is another fiction classic adapted by streaming and as a foundation, it has its story well extended and modified to build a series of 10 episodes.
And in both cases the two series work, even though they are different from the book and only take the basic ideas and introduce several new concepts and stories.
Funny that no one complained about the Handmaid tale adaptation, but strongly criticizes the Apple Foundation.
Both series create new concepts and invented parallel stories that are not in the top books.
This shows not as a negative, as Handmaid's tale is acclaimed on Hulu and has won several important emmys.
The same applies to the apple foundation. It´s an amazing series in its own way.
Great first episodes, a few lame in the middle, and than last ones that tides it all up beautifully. This is how every masterpiece show began
kislevido13 November 2021
I'll admit, I almost gave up on the series on episode 5. The first 2 and a half was promising but a little too "trying" to be an authentic tv show. From the middle of the third episode, it performed quite bad and the 5th and 6th were almost horrible. And then, came the 7th. And oh boy wasn't it glories. And while the 8th was good but not as good as the 7th, this one? The best episode yet.
It's tough to look at well-known tv shows the first season and judge them objectively, but if you remember, a lot of drama masterpieces like GoT, Fauda, Westworld, Handmade's Tale, Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, Mad Man, The Walking Dead, Money Heist etc began just like that ion their first season. Some continued to a horrible second or third season and some continued to be great. House of Cards is actually the one exception of drama masterpieces that I can think of, since the whole first season was equally amazing, and for some reason people expect from Foundation to be like that only exception. Right now, Foundation is going in the path of the greatest, but it will all come down to the final episode which will decide if it will be the next GoT, or the next Alternate Carbon. And the most exciting part about it, is that Apple is aware of that and only just now began to truly promote this tv show, probably because they know, that most people won't like this show without a binge that will make sure they will survive the weak parts.
In conclusion, I really think that the next episode, if it will be good, will mark the dawn of a new masterpiece show. And based on that that most of the negative reviews were only based on the first episodes, and most of the positive ones watched them all, I have a good feeling. Oh, and based on the second seasons of For All Mankind and SEE, which was seginifcaly better than the first ones, Apple might got over its baby steps (and baby falls, I'm looking at you Truth Be Told) and the next season will be the coronation of Foundation as the new GoT, and Apple as the new HBO.
It's tough to look at well-known tv shows the first season and judge them objectively, but if you remember, a lot of drama masterpieces like GoT, Fauda, Westworld, Handmade's Tale, Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, Mad Man, The Walking Dead, Money Heist etc began just like that ion their first season. Some continued to a horrible second or third season and some continued to be great. House of Cards is actually the one exception of drama masterpieces that I can think of, since the whole first season was equally amazing, and for some reason people expect from Foundation to be like that only exception. Right now, Foundation is going in the path of the greatest, but it will all come down to the final episode which will decide if it will be the next GoT, or the next Alternate Carbon. And the most exciting part about it, is that Apple is aware of that and only just now began to truly promote this tv show, probably because they know, that most people won't like this show without a binge that will make sure they will survive the weak parts.
In conclusion, I really think that the next episode, if it will be good, will mark the dawn of a new masterpiece show. And based on that that most of the negative reviews were only based on the first episodes, and most of the positive ones watched them all, I have a good feeling. Oh, and based on the second seasons of For All Mankind and SEE, which was seginifcaly better than the first ones, Apple might got over its baby steps (and baby falls, I'm looking at you Truth Be Told) and the next season will be the coronation of Foundation as the new GoT, and Apple as the new HBO.
Credit where credit is due...
gee-1512 November 2021
Warning: Spoilers
The climax of this episode is okay and does FINALLY (kinda sorta) mirror the book. We are finally rid of the Huntress who becomes a really annoying character (Salvor tells her she's not thinking clearly because of the jump...uh...was she ever thinking clearly?). Meanwhile back at the palace Brother Dawn is betrayed as part of a conspiracy to replace him with a clone. We get the typical " exposition" scene where the aggressor lays out (unnecessarily) the plan for Brother Dawn. And it is one of those long range conspiracy plans that require huge amounts of luck to make work ( eg the other Cleons don't find out, Bro Dawn falls in love with the right person, Bro Dawn doesn't kill himself.....). But it was an unexpected twist...stereotypical...but still unexpected. (How many other movies have done something similar?)
We are, unfortunately, bedeviled by the mundane narration with its seemingly deep references to "history being the greatest weapon" and something about the writers of history curating history blah blah blah. But we don't see any sign of such a thing happening on screen. As a result, the narration doesn't enhance the storyline one whit. And another thing that becomes clear to me. The creators of the series were going to have difficulties from the beginning because the original Foundation series' plot moves around significantly in time. You don't have a central character to focus on. There's no Luke Skywalker in Foundation. So they had to change it up to provide characters to identify with (like Salvor Hardin who's not the best written character in the end). That's okay but it is very limiting to capturing the original themes of Asimov's books. Those stories were never about one person but PEOPLE over time. I'd like to believe that some of the people involved in this series' creation were intent on bringing Asimov's great books and themes to the masses. But too many obviously viewed it as a cash grab. I get it. It's got to be profitable. But I feel it could still have made money even without the excessive tinkering with the plot points.
Of course, I am STILL watching Foundation and that's probably all some the production folks care about.
We are, unfortunately, bedeviled by the mundane narration with its seemingly deep references to "history being the greatest weapon" and something about the writers of history curating history blah blah blah. But we don't see any sign of such a thing happening on screen. As a result, the narration doesn't enhance the storyline one whit. And another thing that becomes clear to me. The creators of the series were going to have difficulties from the beginning because the original Foundation series' plot moves around significantly in time. You don't have a central character to focus on. There's no Luke Skywalker in Foundation. So they had to change it up to provide characters to identify with (like Salvor Hardin who's not the best written character in the end). That's okay but it is very limiting to capturing the original themes of Asimov's books. Those stories were never about one person but PEOPLE over time. I'd like to believe that some of the people involved in this series' creation were intent on bringing Asimov's great books and themes to the masses. But too many obviously viewed it as a cash grab. I get it. It's got to be profitable. But I feel it could still have made money even without the excessive tinkering with the plot points.
Of course, I am STILL watching Foundation and that's probably all some the production folks care about.
A cracker, but I see the usual suspects are still around...
ShippersAreEvil13 November 2021
...watching a show they hate, instead of doing something they like and leaving us in peace. And, apparently, deciding that anyone who likes it is on the pay of Apple. That's new. I though violence was supposed to be the last refuge of the stupid, not paranoid conspiracy theories.
Dear gawd.
Anyway.
I must admit I was wondering how they would get to the first vault opening, with so many threads playing - and of course, they key was focussing on only one side, rather than trying to plot both Anacreon and Thespin, and let us realise that each side was carrying trauma and would end up in the same place. And here we are, exactly where Asimov...sorry Seldon....said we'd be.
An absolute barn burner of an episode. After next week, I am gonna have to binge the lot to see how much I missed.
Dear gawd.
Anyway.
I must admit I was wondering how they would get to the first vault opening, with so many threads playing - and of course, they key was focussing on only one side, rather than trying to plot both Anacreon and Thespin, and let us realise that each side was carrying trauma and would end up in the same place. And here we are, exactly where Asimov...sorry Seldon....said we'd be.
An absolute barn burner of an episode. After next week, I am gonna have to binge the lot to see how much I missed.
Some scene's is just not right.
jurabiker13 November 2021
Warning: Spoilers
Despite the lack of following the books story I'm trying to like this series. Sometimes I wonder how someone who didn't read Foundation books can keep up and follow the story.
I really like some of the sceneries and interiors and also design of the spaceships.
But today's episode scene with two spaceships attacked and destroyed by Phara was exceptionally bad.
I really like some of the sceneries and interiors and also design of the spaceships.
But today's episode scene with two spaceships attacked and destroyed by Phara was exceptionally bad.
Nice
depechemodetrill12 November 2021
-This episode is very good and this series could become even better without Salvor's disgusting haircut borrowed from even more disgusting Michael Burnham of even more hated Fake Trek Discovery. If the producers don't know or if they lost the connection with the main sci-fi audience ,then i will tell them Burnham is the most disliked character since the birth of Jar Jar Binks and beyond (i sincerely feel sorry for the actors ,because they seems to be nice people ),so, to replicate something like that is the most bad idea possible. I hope to not see that super ugly haircut ever again , starting with the next season because i think half of the fans are rejecting this series only because the series looks way too similar with Discovery .Great job ,indeed.
Not for the books readers...
giulialavoriconta16 November 2021
...WE KNOW. We heard you the first 10000 times, thank you!
Can you please leave us non-readers alone and happy?
The Empire part was very good as usual, not so much the Salvor/MarySue bit on Terminus...but still worth your time.
Can you please leave us non-readers alone and happy?
The Empire part was very good as usual, not so much the Salvor/MarySue bit on Terminus...but still worth your time.
Very pleasantly surprised- the mother of them all!
aufo-9128118 January 2022
I read the book so many years ago. I couldn't remember a lot because the first book was full of time-line jumps-forward and back in time.
After seeing initial reviews-I expected to be disappointed. Not so.
I binge watched the whole series 1 today.
It's gorgeous to look at- The casting is excellent- and there are no cliches-despite it being a source material for every Sci-fi classic I've watched since Star Wars-1977.
I enjoyed every minute.
The only way to judge any film/book is to watch it yourself.
After seeing initial reviews-I expected to be disappointed. Not so.
I binge watched the whole series 1 today.
It's gorgeous to look at- The casting is excellent- and there are no cliches-despite it being a source material for every Sci-fi classic I've watched since Star Wars-1977.
I enjoyed every minute.
The only way to judge any film/book is to watch it yourself.
1 more to go and the 2nd season starts
moviesfilmsreviewsinc22 June 2023
Title sequences have become sophisticated enough to complement the shows they complement, sometimes even expressing dominant themes better than the show itself. Foundation's title sequence, created by Imaginary Forces studio and scored by Bear McCreary, captures a sense of grandeur and scale that the show does not. The sequence features perfect geometry, intricate mathematical puzzles, and the iconography of an over-extended empire dissolving into the sands of time, showcasing profound cosmic events. The graceful and succinct title sequence captures the essence of the show's themes and emotions. "The First Crisis" is a mess with too much happening, with Brother Dawn's personal crisis introducing a massive subplot that seemed to shift the show's direction. Salvor and Phara's dynamic of capturing and escaping each other has escalated to cartoon levels, with characters chasing each other off-screen and returning with larger weapons. This frenetic activity is meant to guide the characters for the triumphant return of Hari Seldon and the vindication of his psychohistory model. However, it feels like a lot of noise, leading to Hari's smug ghost informing the crowd that he meant to do that. Gaal's redundant narration adds to the confusion, and it's hope that "The First Crisis" gets rid of the show's worst tendencies before next week's final episode. The episode highlights Brother Dawn's crisis within the palace, with Brother Dusk remaining introspective. Dusk baits Dawn with an elaborate fresco, presenting the pair's hunting expedition, despite not having the resources to lay a trap. Dawn, a young man, is discovered by Dusk, who paints the full number of his kills invisible to the naked eye. He is led through an intimidating hallway filled with digital renderings of Cleon. As his only chance, Dawn attacks Shadow Master Obrecht and escapes into The Scar, an overpopulated favela filled with Trantor's forgotten masses. The Scar is a pleasant place with well-fed, dirty faces and a grassy courtyard with '70s glowing domes. Dawn learns that Azura's affection was a ruse and she was setting him up to be captured. It seems unavoidable that Azura was setting Dawn up to abscond into hiding with one of the central pillars of the galactic dynasty. However, as Cleon sees his own face looking down on him, it becomes clear that the situation is much more convoluted. The Invictus returns to Terminus after the sacrifice of the last Terminus scientists. Salvor, the first to awaken, attempts to contact the surface, but the nul-field has grown and she can only make it planet-side. Her psychic connection to Gaal gives her the insight to unlock Hari's giant d20 Die of Galactic Math. The Vault splits apart, revealing a crystalline beacon with light and knowledge. Phara escapes her bonds, steals a Thespin warship, and fires on the Vault. Salvor shoots Phara in the neck with her own bow, making her downfall a poetic moment. The Anacreons are now leaderless, and Salvor recommends the three peoples band together and take the Invictus as a dangerous symbol of a new coalition. Hari steps out of the Vault and tells everyone that everything is happening just as planned.
Finally a good episode of Star Trek: Foundation.
zordanto15 November 2021
Warning: Spoilers
Thankfully Salvor Hardin was replaced by Michael Burnham in this series.
I think no one else would have had the plot armor needed to resolve Seldon's first two crises simultaneously with one single violent action.
Meanwhile, in a galaxy far, far away, a young Anakin Skywalker has once again failed to achieve happiness with his beloved gardener Padme.
Poor fellow, this time they also removed his Midi-chlorians.
The third season was a bit boring, but in this one - thanks to the crossover with Star Wars - they recovered a bit.
But I'm still waiting for the arrival of Voq, son of none.
I think no one else would have had the plot armor needed to resolve Seldon's first two crises simultaneously with one single violent action.
Meanwhile, in a galaxy far, far away, a young Anakin Skywalker has once again failed to achieve happiness with his beloved gardener Padme.
Poor fellow, this time they also removed his Midi-chlorians.
The third season was a bit boring, but in this one - thanks to the crossover with Star Wars - they recovered a bit.
But I'm still waiting for the arrival of Voq, son of none.
Challenging to watch
udreamihai14 November 2021
Warning: Spoilers
Nothing comes together in the slightest.
First of all, Salvor Hardin (which suffered a gender change for some reason), is the worst character in the series (both writing and acting). Salvor deals with problems and crisis by analysing, rational thinking and then choosing the best outcome, not by "having a feeling".
What's going on with Gaal (also gender switch)? What's the whole point of that character? Gaal was supposed to just narrate the story and approve of Seldon't equation.
Second foundation is located where??? Am I forgetting things, or wasn't it supposed to be on Trantor?
Hari Seldon died where?? That's right, his office on Trantor and Demerzel/Olivaw (another gender switch) was supposed to be his close friend. Yet there's no connection between them in the series and whole psychohistory idea was supposed to be originated from Demerzel/Olivaw.
If you take this series, change characters and places names, you don't even need to buy the TV rights from Asimov, that's how off it is. And that's what they should have done instead of this... I don't even know how to call it... abomination.
First of all, Salvor Hardin (which suffered a gender change for some reason), is the worst character in the series (both writing and acting). Salvor deals with problems and crisis by analysing, rational thinking and then choosing the best outcome, not by "having a feeling".
What's going on with Gaal (also gender switch)? What's the whole point of that character? Gaal was supposed to just narrate the story and approve of Seldon't equation.
Second foundation is located where??? Am I forgetting things, or wasn't it supposed to be on Trantor?
Hari Seldon died where?? That's right, his office on Trantor and Demerzel/Olivaw (another gender switch) was supposed to be his close friend. Yet there's no connection between them in the series and whole psychohistory idea was supposed to be originated from Demerzel/Olivaw.
If you take this series, change characters and places names, you don't even need to buy the TV rights from Asimov, that's how off it is. And that's what they should have done instead of this... I don't even know how to call it... abomination.
Did anyone else notice that the narration was self-contradictory?
exmach12 November 2021
Warning: Spoilers
How's history supposed to help yield psychohistory, and so produce testable predictions, if it merely comprises (contingent) narratives and stories?
How does psychohistory jive with the Hardon-as-saviour storyline here?
Why couldn't Trantor figure out that Dawn was left-handed and colour blind years ago?
If you've just watched your co-pilot get shot within an instant, why would you fork over the code/keys to your ship without expecting to get shot immediately thereafter yourself?
The scripts need to be better reviewed before being given final go ahead.
How does psychohistory jive with the Hardon-as-saviour storyline here?
Why couldn't Trantor figure out that Dawn was left-handed and colour blind years ago?
If you've just watched your co-pilot get shot within an instant, why would you fork over the code/keys to your ship without expecting to get shot immediately thereafter yourself?
The scripts need to be better reviewed before being given final go ahead.
I dont usually review things
briantan9015 November 2021
Warning: Spoilers
This show had gone from bad to worse, the story dont even make sense anymore and all logic has flown out into deep space never to be seen again. This has become Rey Skywalker cringe level, where feels trump years of study of math and just feel their way to victory. The fact they had a standoff in an open field with gun ships aiming and stared at the sky while the huntress take down TWO gun ships and being soldiers they would just surrender a military space craft with ZERO defense mechanism built in in case of situations like this? The incompetence is at Last Jedi levels. I watched and hoped that it would get better because the production and Empire's character was interesting, but I dont think this "sci-fi" is salvageable. Might as well put in voodoo magic right now and kill empire with Jedi mind trick. Apple really thinks we are a bunch of morons who don't understand how things logically work.
P. S to all the 10/10 please highlight the logic behind that rating, hating on those who rated this lowly shows how shallow your understanding is.
P. S to all the 10/10 please highlight the logic behind that rating, hating on those who rated this lowly shows how shallow your understanding is.
Apple hired the wrong people
kamen-kunchev15 November 2021
OK, I understand that now is the time for high production cost Sci-Fi TV and movies but this is getting out of hand. It doesn't matter how much money you throw at this, it will never be any good.
The Empire has the tech to scan brains and memories but they never do it on the staff who work for them. This would have rendered 80% of this episode meaningless. Risking Brother Dawn's life just to see who's plotting against the regime is hilarious. They could have just run background checks on everyone or scanned their brains.
Do we even need Hardin to make a full circle and return to Terminus? After all, her journey is just a time filler and in no way develops or establishes her any further than when we saw her first. We could have had this episode's ending right after the episode where the barrier is broken and before the battle ends. No need to go through all this space odyssey mumbo jumbo.
What was Hari waiting for? How was all this intentional and somehow predicted? Psychohistory is supposed to make predictions on vast scales, not personal actions and yet we have Hari try to micromanage.
I thought I'd read the book after watching season 1, but even though, as I am told, the source material and the show are quite different, I feel less and less eager to read it. This show's lack of logic, no character development and bad acting (Lee Pace is carrying the show and his acting is fantastic) just stains the source material leaving people to wonder was the book really that good.
The Empire has the tech to scan brains and memories but they never do it on the staff who work for them. This would have rendered 80% of this episode meaningless. Risking Brother Dawn's life just to see who's plotting against the regime is hilarious. They could have just run background checks on everyone or scanned their brains.
Do we even need Hardin to make a full circle and return to Terminus? After all, her journey is just a time filler and in no way develops or establishes her any further than when we saw her first. We could have had this episode's ending right after the episode where the barrier is broken and before the battle ends. No need to go through all this space odyssey mumbo jumbo.
What was Hari waiting for? How was all this intentional and somehow predicted? Psychohistory is supposed to make predictions on vast scales, not personal actions and yet we have Hari try to micromanage.
I thought I'd read the book after watching season 1, but even though, as I am told, the source material and the show are quite different, I feel less and less eager to read it. This show's lack of logic, no character development and bad acting (Lee Pace is carrying the show and his acting is fantastic) just stains the source material leaving people to wonder was the book really that good.
Everything happens by chance, abysmal writing
rbugnone13 November 2021
Warning: Spoilers
I cannot belive how badly this show is written, nothing makes logical sense, and that's saying a lot talking about something base on Asimov's books.
But let's forget the books, with which any comparison would be like beating a dead horse at this point, let's just examine the show on his own like some fanboys want.
In good shows characers act accoriding to their own motivations, morale and information they possess. You can usuallly understand why they do things and logical thinking drives their actions to achieve their goals.
Not here: I'm not exagerating when I say Salvor Hardin is one of the worst characters ever put to film, everything she does has no reason beside "I have a feeling this is going to work".
Quintessential Mary Sue, perfect in every way, piloting ships that would kill anyone else because she can (or because the screenwriter says so?), solving situations that requires skills she coulnd't possibly have thanks to magic powers, doing things that make absolutely no sense given the knowledge the character possesses simply because she can see the future and apparently now even the past (again, PURE MAGIC!) and having has "feelings" because of it!
The show once again demonstrates it completely missed the concept of psychohistory, supposedly able to predict the evolution of human civilization composed o billions of individuals (and the show itself explains it like that in the first episode!) instead becomes a magical skill that apparently allowed Seldon to predict with perfect accuracy EVERYTHING that happens and orchestrate a perfect plan that could only came together if people acted perfectly according to it.
Ah, as a final note, the defective emperor clone was one of the few mildly interesting things amidst this garbage fire of a show, but they also butchered that with some ridiculous plot twist involving a completely bonkers conspiracy.
I'm so mad at this show, because almost surely nobody will want to risk losing money producing more movies/shows based on Asimov's operas after this.
But let's forget the books, with which any comparison would be like beating a dead horse at this point, let's just examine the show on his own like some fanboys want.
In good shows characers act accoriding to their own motivations, morale and information they possess. You can usuallly understand why they do things and logical thinking drives their actions to achieve their goals.
Not here: I'm not exagerating when I say Salvor Hardin is one of the worst characters ever put to film, everything she does has no reason beside "I have a feeling this is going to work".
Quintessential Mary Sue, perfect in every way, piloting ships that would kill anyone else because she can (or because the screenwriter says so?), solving situations that requires skills she coulnd't possibly have thanks to magic powers, doing things that make absolutely no sense given the knowledge the character possesses simply because she can see the future and apparently now even the past (again, PURE MAGIC!) and having has "feelings" because of it!
The show once again demonstrates it completely missed the concept of psychohistory, supposedly able to predict the evolution of human civilization composed o billions of individuals (and the show itself explains it like that in the first episode!) instead becomes a magical skill that apparently allowed Seldon to predict with perfect accuracy EVERYTHING that happens and orchestrate a perfect plan that could only came together if people acted perfectly according to it.
Ah, as a final note, the defective emperor clone was one of the few mildly interesting things amidst this garbage fire of a show, but they also butchered that with some ridiculous plot twist involving a completely bonkers conspiracy.
I'm so mad at this show, because almost surely nobody will want to risk losing money producing more movies/shows based on Asimov's operas after this.
Episode 9 and still pretty incoherent
bobetjo13 November 2021
Well anyone interested in has long since given up on any relation to Asimov. The Emperors are still interesting enough to watch. Salvor Hardin and the Foundation is continuing to be contradictory and silly. Just the visuals make it watchable. This whole thing is just expensive rubbish .
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