Fear the Walking Dead (TV Series) Iron Tiger (2023) User Reviews

My Sweet Charlie

[hiramthreets · 6/10 · 29 October 2023]

Madison is back and angry as ever. Last episode I was angry at Anton/Victor, lol. This episode the tables have turned. The main characters in this series Fear The Walking Dead have no redeeming qualities. They're driven by self, it seems. Especially Victor. The writer's seem to push that narrative on all fronts, it showed in this episode with Madison when she found about what happened to her son and Charlie. Do Madison and Victor ever stop thinking about themselves? And put whats best for everyone first? These two characters need to do some long hard soul searching. Rick Grimes thought of everyone.

No One's Gonna Like This...

[WordsworthStone · 6/10 · 2 November 2023]

This review is probably going to get negative feedback. Knowing this, just like this show, I'm going to go through with it anyways.

Anybody remember? Like a over a decade ago, when 'TWD' was golden age television and every week was suspenseful stakes because it could be your favorite character's last. But then the show ran too long and they could raise the stakes only so much every new season. Season 6 stakes raise--a penultimate episode with a fake out death of a fan favorite character--then actually killing him off in the following season premiere. How many viewers did you lose, AMC? Me, I stuck it through, I gave benefit of the doubt.

I even stuck with 'FTWD' when even the cast wanted out and we saw Madison go the way of the Dodo, then Nick, then so on...And they kept raising the stakes until it got to a ridiculously absurd proportion--THEY INTRODUCED A NUCLEAR APOCALYPSE DURING THE ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE! Then they killed off my two favorites, Charlie and Alicia. Like, that's it, FIN, the end. They've killed off the main FTWD family, thus the storyline.

But some producer over at AMC believed they could staunch the bleeding, revive the show with television magic deus ex machina CPR, and bring back to life, Kim Dickens, like another Andrew Lincoln survival fantasy. Now they're just having fun. "Let's do the reverse!" Bring back our friends for one last go. Budget a few to come back, not in flashback, not zombie back to life, but like alive back to life, then unalive them right away because...no one actually pays for AMC+. Poor Charlie. Alexa Nisenson, I love to see your beautiful face, but on another show, please. AND, if I see, Alycia Debnam-Carey, any time this season, I swear.... I swear I will petition the writers guild and get the writing staffs' memberships revoked.

Iron Tiger Review

[simianfriday · 7/10 · 30 October 2023]

It's astonishing how much better this show is with Kim Dickens in the lead. I mean, it's still Fear, so it's not *great* - but this show never should have written her out back in season 4. Kim Dickens - Madison Clark - *IS* this entire show. She is what binds it all together and what drives the plot forward in a meaningful direction. I really wonder if this show might have eventually been good had she never been written out to begin with. What's wild is I don't even think Kim Dickens is a very good actor - Lennie James was a much better actor in my opinion - but her character and the stories they tell with her are just so much more interesting than anything they ever did with Morgan.

This show might actually end up going out on a high note. I never thought I'd say that.

A solid continuation of season 3

[crispycriscuolo · 2 November 2023]

(I also wrote this review for episode 7, but it fits here)

I was so surprised at how much I was enjoying these first two episodes at first, then I realized that they're basically picking up from where season 3 ended with these last six episodes. So many reunions are happening for the first time since the dam: Madison and Strand (the big one), everyone and Troy, etc. And the focus has primarily been on the show's original characters.

I began watching season 4 when it aired and got tired of it very quickly. I've seen a few episodes here and there but if you dropped the show after season 3, this is a great place to jump in. The atmosphere is the most vibrant since season 3 and the writing is surprisingly sharp, if still not perfect. Excited to see how it ends!

Best of the reboot era

[fin-4815162342 · 7/10 · 2 November 2023]

Best episode of the reboot era and I don't care what anyone says. There's no stupid beer bottle balloons, San Antonio splits or 'All life is precious' Morgan rubbish. It features a redeeming sacrifice of Charlie (five years too late, but still) and shows off the eye candy which is Daniel Sharman's Troy Otto.

Despite all that, it's still not quite up to par with Erickson era episodes. Dialogue is so flat and mundane and most of the characters feel like cardboard cutouts. I don't know if the cast is just tired of bad writing at this point or if maybe they're fed up of all the convenient 'Sike! He/She is not actually dead!' moments, but it sure feels like they're done with this show, which is handy, because there's only four episodes left now.

Big Reunion

[ZegMaarJus · 7/10 · 8 January 2024]

This Episode begins with Madison, Strand, Daniel and Hawk, they arrived at PADRE's gasoline storage. Luciana got reunited with Madison, Strand and her uncle Daniel. Charlie appears, she is still alive, she got reunited with Madison, Strand, Luciana and Daniel. Charlie tells Madison that she shot Nick. Charlie killed Madison her son. Charlie got captured by Troy. Charlie shot herself to death. Madison leaves the group. Solid Episode of Fear the Walking Dead Season 8, this was just Solid. Nothing special at all. I need more exciting moments, hoping for a good four final Episodes. Curious to see where Morgan is!

Feels like Fear

[fountasalexander · 9/10 · 29 October 2023]

This show does not feel real at all, in a sense where I can't believe this actually exists.

It feels so good seeing characters go back to their original form, or at-least close to it, etc. Strand & Daniel.

FANTASTIC to see Luciana back on our screens, beautiful to see the four original characters stand side by side once again.

I can't believe Charlie is finally dead.

Honestly it wasn't as satisfying as I always thought it would be, I guess after all these years I eventually somewhat forgave her for killing Nick, pretty dark stuff.

I find it so weird that they dug up Nicks body so they could cremate him, they literally buried him already, let the man rest.

Despite its flaws, I'm just glad it's feeling like FearTWD to me, 9/10.

S8.E8 - Well... it's Mediocre [6/10]

[panagiotis1993 · 6/10 · 30 October 2023]

(S8. E8) My Live Reaction / Review for Fear The Walking Dead Season 8 Episode 8 ''Iron Tiger'': Episode 7 was good and I gave it a rating of 7.8/10. Let's see if this one is better or worse. I expect for this episode to be great because the previous episode had nice build-up with Troy and everything. Nice to see Luciana. Charlie is alive? Please no no. Why? She should be dead, the writers are awful. Charlie killed Nick but Madison didn't know. I kinda feel bad for her. I wish she would kill Charlie, I'd love that to be honest. Love the chemistry between Victor and Madison, these two are always great together. First 20 minutes not much is happening, mostly conversations but still good. I wanna see Morgan and Alicia, where are they? 30 minutes in and the episode is a bit mediocre. Charlie killed herself? Finally some good news. Overall this episode is mediocre, nothing really exciting about it. My rating is 6/10.

These last two episodes deserves higher ratings

[kristachafe · 9/10 · 31 October 2023]

Like my title states, these last two episodes deserve higher ratings. I want to give this episode a 10, but I have to be more realistic so I gave it a 9 lol.

In this episode we see the group be reunited with Luciana and it was very heartwarming to see Daniel's reaction. I had forgotten that not all the characters know that Madison did not die at the stadium so it was a lovely reunion. What I thought was going to be..lovely.. was Madison reuniting with Charlie, but, it was anything but and I'm happy for it. She needed to know that Charlie killed her son. I had thought Madison was going to kill her, but I'll review that.

They send Charlie after Troy and his group with the fuel but she gets taken before she could trick Troy. I do not like Charlie so I was pleased that she got caught. Fast forward to her death, it was a bittersweet death. While her reasoning was beautiful, I was annoyed with the fact that Troy didn't kill her after learning that she did kill his friend, or as he describes, his brother. I found it a little odd that he referred to Nick as his brother because as we seen, it was anything but a brotherly love. In saying that, I think if he had lived he and Troy would have been brothers and an insane duo.

Anyways, the show ends with everyone parting ways. Daniel goes with Luci, Madison alone, Victor alone. I thought the execution of this episode was exciting from the first minute it came on, I don't think it was boring at all like other reviews had said. It was emotional, intense, and exciting. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm very excited to see that Troy has a daughter and was able to grow a heart. Can't wait to see more of Troy. If I had it my way, the show would end with him and Madison going to meet Morgan at Alexandria. (Also... I don't believe that he killed Alycia. I think he's holding her somewhere in exchange for padre)

The episode effectively explores the actions and consequences theme, something basic but seemingly abandoned by the series for some time, as few actions had consequences

[fernandoschiavi · 6/10 · 4 May 2024]

In search of gas, Daniel, Strand and Madison are reunited with Luciana and Charlie who was cured of her illness by PADRE. After being captured by PADRE, Luciana had agreed to refine oil for them in exchange for the use of PADRE's resources to help other survivors across the country and for the release of Daniel whom PADRE had intended to kill. Charlie confesses to an enraged Madison that she was the one to murder Nick, causing Madison to blame her choices for the deaths of her children. Madison demands that Charlie use her skills to assassinate Troy, but relents and forgives the girl after discovering that Charlie had Nick's body dug up and cremated, leaving Nick's ashes for his mother.

However, Charlie is captured by Troy who demands the location of PADRE in exchange for Charlie's release. In the chaos of an explosion that she set, Charlie breaks free and commits suicide, sacrificing herself to protect PADRE. Madison briefly helps Troy to search for his missing daughter Tracy, learning that he was cutting off the arms of walkers to mess with her and that Troy blames Madison for the death of Tracy's mother, something that Madison has no knowledge of. The death of Charlie causes Luciana and Daniel to turn against Madison, and Daniel leaves to be with Luciana. Realizing that they're right, Madison leaves PADRE in Strand's care and goes off on her own.

After several episodes of absence, Luciana (Danay Garcia) is finally back with a fresh twist. Luciana's journey in Fear the Walking Dead is both sad and intriguing. Introduced in the middle of the second season as one of the series' most "Bad*ss" characters, she exuded leadership and bravery. However, over the seasons, she drastically lost this edge, becoming a character who was the opposite of her initial portrayal.

After Nick's (Frank Dillane) death, Luciana had the potential to grow and develop further. Instead, the writers sidelined her, reducing her to a background character. Declining since the fifth season, culminating in the seventh where she became practically useless, Luciana now returns prominently, becoming the focus of an episode for the first time. The writers attempted to revive her character in this episode, restoring her as a leader and bringing back the brutal edge she had in the second season. While this was a good idea and it works, it's lamentable that the character had to wait until the series' end to receive the spotlight she deserved.

Bringing Charlie back also served to conclude an arc and canonize an anticipated event, the showdown between Charlie and Madison (Kim Dickens), and the revelation about Nick's death. This episode finally delivers on these storylines, and it is satisfying in terms of their development and conclusion. This showdown had always had the potential to trigger something significant and definitive, which may explain why Charlie was absent for the entire first part of the season; once she appeared, this storyline had to be resolved. With Madison absent, Charlie was able to evolve over the seasons and become one of the main characters of the series. When we finally see this showdown, we as viewers are torn. We feel Madison's grief but also understand Charlie's evolution and redemption, a point that has been well-developed in this second phase of the series.

If the impression before was that Troy had returned stronger than ever and seeking revenge, this episode gives him more depth and a motivation beyond what was previously established. Now, he has a daughter, and his quest for vengeance against Madison is not for his father and brother (whom he clearly didn't care much about) but for his daughter's mother. Seeing him lose his composure and all his imposing demeanor upon discovering his daughter had disappeared humanizes him and puts him in parallel with Madison. Now, we know that Troy is just a mirror image of his enemy, with the same motivations and objectives, but fighting on the other side.

Like the previous episode, the climax of this chapter is in the third act and the decisions made. Charlie's death was one of the most impactful scenes of the entire series. Depicting suicide is always delicate and dangerous, but here, credit must be given to Heather Cappiello, who directed this episode. In this segment, she focused on showing only what was necessary and creating an impact, even with so little shown. Portraying the suicide of a teenager in the way it was done could have gone very wrong, overstepping boundaries and making the scene problematic. However, fortunately, this is not the case. Similar to the approach in Season 9, Episode 14 of the main series, where the execution of children was carefully avoided, the decision to show Charlie's death in the background was a smart choice. Additionally, Charlie's death carries significant narrative weight and leads to irreparable consequences for the characters.

One of the best-developed aspects of the episode and the season is how the series portrays Madison as a character full of flaws who constantly makes questionable decisions. While in the early seasons, she had a protective matriarch vibe, here she is given a new role, becoming a leader who consistently fails and is driven by emotions. Surprisingly, this is not a negative point. By addressing the consequences of her actions, the series adds depth to the character. Madison's rash decisions led to Charlie's death and the group's disbandment, leaving a scar on Daniel (Rubén Blades) that he could never forgive. Furthermore, this tragedy gave him a development that had been lacking for a while. The episode effectively explores the actions and consequences theme, something basic but seemingly abandoned by the series for some time, as few actions had consequences for the characters. This is crucial for the plot's evolution and essential for adding depth to the narrative. Perhaps this was the best-executed aspect of this script: how each action, both past and present, is generating consequences and influence over these characters. If this approach continues in the final episodes, the series has the potential to deliver a worthy and memorable ending.

The worst

[ykbyxmgpx · 1/10 · 2 December 2023]

This season of Fear is shockingly bad television. I feel sorry for the actors. This episode epitomizes everything that is wrong with the entire 8th season. Terrible, sophomoric dialogue, wildly erratic personality shifts, baseless motivations, and characterizations completely out of whack with past seasons has been the trademark of this season and it is all distilled into down into this single episode that required me to stop watching multiple times to re-evaluate my life choices. Why am I punishing myself like this? It's out of respect for what the first few seasons prepared us for what could have been. This though. . . This is painfully bad.

Feels like something from the past

[nikitamedianik · 8/10 · 29 October 2023]

It happening - the show becomes watchable towards the very end. Evil irony. Ian Goldberg and Andrew Chambliss remember too late that this story has always belonged to the Clark family and the old group like Victor and Daniel. The eighth episode frequently references the third season of the Erikson era, and does so ... quite well? There's a smooth and meaningful narrative here, with scenes with Troy showing that the character is still acting the way he used to. The mention of Jeremiah was as unexpected as possible. The cameraman is worth a special mention, the shots are smooth and help to convey the emotions of the characters. It was as if the series returned to the former spark, a sense of understanding where the plot is moving. Don't give me hope. Iron Tiger was really decant, a lot of excitement and something familiar, the sense of original atmosphere. To sad that we have a chance to witness this only in the end of the line.

Terrible

[macfrazzled · 3/10 · 31 October 2023]

Has Kim Dickens forgotten how to act?!!! This was absolutely terrible just cringeworthy acting from everyone but in particular Kim what on earth? I have watched this show since day one. It's like the writers have just given up . Why bring back a central character now ? When not when Alicia was around ? A massive disappointment all round also were did Charli get the Peruvian wig during an apocalypse ridiculous so much potential let down by bad acting and terrible writing . Let's not talk about how the previous episode was in German I thought I had tuned in to the wrong show. Victor who ???? Dull.

Great episode !

[atazinhu · 9/10 · 30 October 2023]

Im shocked of how good this episode actually was, after the awful first half of the season, we finally get a good episode.

Not only that but now that Momo is gone and they are finally focusing on all the OG characters the show is finally feeling like it used to.

I love how Luciana is finally acting like herself, because after season 4 it felt like she got a lobotomy, no offense, she got very weird, she was nothing like season 2-3 Luciana.

I was very shocked with the decision of making Charlie commit suicide after her return for 1 episode, but at least it was done well.

The ending was also nice, Daniel saying to Madison that there is something fundamentally wrong with her basically resumes her character.

Best of Season 8

[d4donjohnsonmv · 9/10 · 5 December 2023]

I just got thru watching all season 8 up to the bitter end and this is the best of the season. Now I understand why everyone on Reddit was wild about it. It was the most entertaining. Story was okay, but the imagery and acting and scenes were the best. I think if you don't like Madison, you just won't like the show. Hate watchers gonna hate.

So cool to see Luci get her title card. She also had some lines!

The last episode was awesome seeing Alicia come back, but this episode was better like some people have been saying it is an old school episode of Fear.

I'm going to miss this show. Now I'll be watching Daryl Dixon next.

Still tripping balls

[mjhuijbregts · 3/10 · 2 November 2023]

It's like the showrunners were rolling dice on descision the characters would make in this episode. Absolutely bizar. I saw someone in their review talk about the fact that it ''doesn't feel real''. It's just flat out bizar, so nothing surprising on that front. They threw allot of old names into the script to crank up some nostlagia, which came off extremely cheap. The plot was really thin, and fell flat. There's absololutely no way of predicting what you're going to wittnes from one episode to the next in the worst sense.

I Recently saw an interview of the FEAR cast in SDCC(2017). Where it once again got annoucned that the showrunner was going to be leaving the show... God damn it, have Andrew Chambliss and Ian Goldberg driven this ship into the ground.

Best episode in ages.

[fearfanatic · 10/10 · 8 November 2023]

I am now on S8 and this is a fantastic episode just like everyone says. It's the most entertaining and exciting episode since Mexico. I was on the edge of my seat. It was totally emotional and I felt what the characters were feeling at so many points because of how it was made. I wasn't bored like I have been for seasons now and it moved really quickly, keeping me interested. I have missed this quality of Fear for the past few seasons and this is a really good episode to bring back the OG Fear feeling. The feeling of discovery and survival and danger and desperation was back. I know some fans are angry because of Charlie's suicide, but the quality of the episode was soooo good. Some viewers get angry because of the writing so they think the episode is bad. They are just sad that the character dies so they think they don't like the episode, but it's really good filmmaking.

Why Bring Back Madison?

[sundy_bee · 5/10 · 13 November 2023]

Out of all the characters they could have brought back, why Madison. I was so relieved when she was "killed" off earlier in the series. She is definitely the 'Angela' of this series. You can write a great character but poor casting choice can destroy that, such as the aforementioned Angela of the original series. This whole bringing Charlie back and the Madison interaction is pretty lame. I'm not sure if it's the bad acting or bad writing. Victor is really the only character that is worth watching anymore and even he is annoying with his predictable lying all the time. I am finishing this series because I'm determined to complete it. So much potential. The story line of this episode is predictable: Go risk your life because I'm mad, nevermind, I changed my mind, oh no, it's too late, we must go rescue her.

Meh

[jwinps-561-924206 · 5/10 · 30 October 2023]

I have been an avid follower of the original "The Walking Dead" and all of the spinoffs. However, this season just seems lame compared to the earlier seasons of "Fear" as well as all the other iterations of all the franchise series versions.

First, I find the acting to be lackluster by all the characters, including the returning ones. Second, in this episode specifically, I find Madison to be taking some incredibly stupid actions. For a character who has up to now been so level headed, pragmatic, inventive, her sudden revenge seems out of character. Then, after hatching the revenge murder plot, she has an epiphany and tries to stop it with another incredibly stupid move that endangers the person she used to enact the plot. This soon cascades into more tragedy.

The acting and scripts are not as gripping nor as convincing as before. This season has been a big disappointment for me. I'll continue to watch hoping it gets better, anticipating it wont.

"Iron Tiger" has a good first half and a awful second half, good acting and better characterization doesn't justify the bad

[Holt344 · 5/10 · 30 October 2023]

"Iron Tiger" is the eight episode of the final season and is directed by SJ Main Muñoz, written by Nick Bernardone & Jacob Pinion. The direction was actually quite great, a completely new director for the show and her direction and visual storytelling must have been the season's best. The cinematography was quite good, with some great shots and camera angles. The sound editing and musical score is fantastic. The makeup department did some fine work with the zombies. In my third paragraph, I'll go into some spoilers but most importantly more about the episode.

The search for gas leads to an unexpected reunion that Madison uses as an opportunity.

Kim Dickens shows much more interest in actually giving a good performance, whenever she's acting alongside Colman Domingo or Daniel Sharman, those scenes are the best. Ruben Blades as Daniel, another character who is more like himself and not as out of character as the previous seasons. He brought a great performance, as did Danay Garcia as Luciana who has gotten some terrible writing in the past, a good addition was how she was called Polar Bear. It was nice to finally see Luciana again, but the storytelling and writing are so lackluster in how they just stumbled across each other, then we have the return for yet another character. Charlie, I wonder how she survived but I'm happy for it because of Nick and how she killed him in cold blood which everyone forgave her for all too quickly, which means we all get to see how Madison acts when she learns of what Charlie did. It's the first glimpse we have gotten of the old Madison, with good writing and acting, the longer take with Kim Dickens and Colman Domingo after Madison learns about it, that scene was great and beautiful in a way in how this great friend comforts her. I wouldn't think I would say this, but Kim Dickens has finally gotten the writing her character deserves and we see it in her performance. But Fear can't have a morally grey character, everything has to be black and white, Madison forgives her quite quickly and it shows how bad the writing truly is. To argue, they didn't have time to make it play out in several episodes because of the show ending. The small scene between Troy and Charlie was quite good, good acting but everything feels rushed, which is not a good thing. The walkie talkies during the trade, truly awful. To bring everything to a conclusion, they kill off Charlie and it reminds me of Glenn and his fake death scene before killing him off again. Erik Kain brought up a good point with her suicide being nothing but a cheap dramatic trick and that's what it is, the showrunners should be ashamed. At least, the tension between Madison and Troy ends on a positive note, the character remains morally grey like before, with a daughter. Yet he escapes. The whole meeting between these groups was among the worst scenes of this show. It's not really about the direction, but the writing, they write it so dull and boring like you know nothing will happen. Something did happen though, over a walkie talkie, which means our characters didn't see Charlie dying and why her death didn't really spark no feelings like anger. What Daryl did in TWD during Abraham's death, that's a natural action when you see someone dying in front of you. If Daniel would have been written by Dave Erickson, he would have gunned everyone down before them witnessing but instead here we have the group walking without any plan and talking reason when characters like Daniel and Madison would fire without giving it a second thought. The showrunners can't write these characters, the writers for this episode did a good job during the first half but that's about it.

"Iron Tiger" has a good first half and an awful second half, the good acting and better characterization doesn't justify the bad. I was surprised by the ratings, did these people finish the episode? Anyways, a decent episode. I do want to say the quality has increased slightly, but not much.

Really lame

[stormpoet · 1/10 · 31 October 2023]

So the bring lucianna charlie and troy

So troy is who some bad guy crazy idiot from way back? Madison is doing massive cardio but she cant breathe except its only evident when its convenient but mads lets troy go when victor restrains her

Tyen all of a sudden its morning and a truck arrives only for mads to leave talk about a waste of time

Oh and then there us all about charlie offing herself csuse why not yeah um no this episode was the most worthless one ive ever wasted my time watching if i could give s negative 10 mark that would be more fitting for this junk that i think the writers did while taking a 2 hour dump to pass the time cause of constipation.

A Sad Ending to a GOOD Character

[jasonandbettyg-87078 · 5/10 · 5 November 2023]

Hear me out on this one...I created an account just to write this.

This show had my attention until over the last 2 seasons the writers started this strange trip of creating villains out of main characters and other main characters vowing revenge just to say 'Oh nevermind, this wass all bad communication. All the others that sacrificed themselves for my revenge cause are collateral damage' What!? Think of all the wonderful characters that were killed off due to bad 'revenge' plots over the last couple of seasons.

The writers and producers should be ashamed for having a child (actor) character kill off a main character (who wanted to leave the show anyway) then to write that through all of her attempts to redeem herself over the seasons, to only have her commit suicide. I have felt terrible for the actress that had to put up with "fans" that ACTUALLY threatened this child! By the way, I believe the actress Alexa Nisenson actually suffers from depression (I think I read that somewhere), so way to go writers for having her character do such a thing.. "Fans" who are happy that a child character, who is also grieving about her past, committs suicide should rethink their real world morals. You praise Madison for her return but how is she any different from Charlie's character? Madison stole children and is now trying to right her wrongs. Chew on that.

I gave it 5 stars only for the Charlie actress having agreed to return to this soup sandwich of a plot and the idiocy of Madison/"Death to Charlie" fans. I hope Madison's fate is less "heroic"