The Two Popes (2019)
Anthony Hopkins: Cardinal Joseph Aloisius Ratzinger, Pope Benedict XVI.
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Quotes
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Pope Benedict : In 1978, we had three popes.
Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio : Yeah, but they weren't at the same time.
Pope Benedict : I was making a little joke.
Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio : A joke?
Pope Benedict : A German joke. It doesn't have to be funny.
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Pope Francis : Speaking English is exhausting.
Pope Benedict : Terrible language - so many exceptions to every rule.
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Pope Benedict : You talk about walls as if they are bad things. A house is built of walls. Strong walls.
Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio : Ah... Did Jesus build walls? His face is a face of mercy. The bigger the sinner, the warmer the welcome. Mercy is the dynamite that blows down walls.
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Pope Benedict : Perhaps we'll find God over there, on the journey, I'll introduce you to Him.
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Pope Benedict : This is your ego talking. You think you know better.
Pope Francis : I'm Argentinian. How does an Argentinian kill himself? He climbs to the top of his ego, and jumps off.
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Pope Benedict : When you were leader of the Jesuits in Argentina, you had all the books on Marxism removed from the library.
Pope Francis : And I made seminarians wear cassocks all day, even when they were working in the vegetable garden. And I called civil marriage for homosexuals the Devil's plan.
Pope Benedict : You were not unlike me.
Pope Francis : I changed.
Pope Benedict : No, you compromised!
Pope Francis : No, I changed! It's a different thing.
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Pope Benedict : A Church that marries the spirit of the age...
Pope Francis : Yes, ..will be widowed in the next.
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Pope Benedict : We all suffer from spiritual pride. We all do. You must remember that, uh..you are not God. In God, we move, and live, and have our being. We live in God, but we are not of it. You're only human.
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Pope Benedict : My doctor gave it to me. He said,You are in good shape for 86 but very bad shape for a human being. I believe this was a joke.
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Pope Benedict : [playing the piano] You know, the, um... this album was recorded in a famous studio in London. I was told, uh, I should be very honored because the Beatles had been there. Do you know the Beatles?
Pope Francis : Yes, I know who they are.
Pope Benedict : Of course you do.
Pope Francis : 'Eleanor Rigby!'
Pope Benedict : Who?
Pope Francis : 'Eleanor Rigby.'
Pope Benedict : I don't know her.
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Pope Benedict : You know, there's a saying, uh, God always corrects one pope by presenting the world with another pope. I should... I'd like to see my correction.
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Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio : You know the story, the... the two seminarians who... who liked to smoke?
Pope Benedict : No. They should resist the temp...
Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio : Well, yeah, yeah. So, the first one, he goes to his spiritual director, and he says, "Father, is it permitted to smoke while praying?" And the director says, "No. No, of course not."
Pope Benedict : Of course not. No, it's...
Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio : No, no. So... So, the second one, he was a Jesuit. He says to his friend, "Brother, you're just asking the wrong question."
Pope Benedict : Ah.
Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio : So, he goes to the director, then he says, "Father, is it permitted to pray while smoking?"
Pope Benedict : Yeah. Pray and smoke at the same ti... Ah-haha haha!
Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio : Ah?
Pope Benedict : It's a joke. It's a silly joke. Pray and smoke at the same time. It's impossible. Ah, I can never remember jokes.
Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio : Remembering jokes is an essential part of Jesuit training.
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Pope Benedict : It is our weakness that calls forth the grace of God. You show your weakness, He gives us strength.
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Pope Benedict : I cannot feel the presence of God. I do not hear His voice, do you understand me?
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Pope Benedict : All dictatorships take away our freedom to choose. We both know that. Or reveal our own weaknesses.
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Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio : I'd sort out the bank
Cardinal Ratzinger : Yeah, good luck with that.
Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio : Yeah, well the banks almost destroyed my country.
Cardinal Ratzinger : Yeah.
Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio : You know they beg for deregulation, like tigers begging to be let out of a cage.
Cardinal Ratzinger : Yeah
Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio : They devour everything in sight.
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Pope Benedict : You talk about walls as if they are bad things.