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5/10
Needs to be talked about
michelleaguarino8 September 2022
I have literally never written a review for any type of media. However watching this I kept having the same thoughts and I do not see that anyone else has mentioned this. The subject matter I think is extremely important and needs to be discussed. The crimes committed by these teachers and the countless others need to be brought to light. The people who have committed these crimes need to be held accountable for their actions. Also and arguably more importantly this behavior needs to be de-normalized, de-romanticized. Which brings me to my point and why I am only giving this doc 5 stars. Really it should be a 10 star doc. However so much of the problem here lies in the romanticization and the subsequent normalization of these types of relationships. Which has been perpetuated in large part by the media. A huge example of this comes from the very same company this series is being broadcasted on. As pretty little liars came from free form. On that very show a student has a relationship with her teacher. On the show it is romantic and sort of played like a Romeo and Juliet type thing. With them just being so misunderstood. So much so that the young woman who was in that relationship ends up marrying her perpetrator (let's be clear that's what he was really). Watching that always made me feel sick and wonder how it was perceived as ok? What kind of ideas were we putting into our kids? It's no wonder this is such a widespread problem, we ourselves are making our children easy prey exposing them to ideas like that. Can we not start to hold media accountable as well? A big part of fixing this is going to lie in making sure kids know ITS NOT OK, it's not normal, it's not romantic and it's not their fault. I could go on much longer but I'll stop at this 10 stars for the doc and hopefully the start of a larger conversation. 0 stars for free form and the disgusting things they have allowed to air with no consequences. Also I know it would be hard to find a media company to air this that did not have their hands dirty with this type of stuff. However, with pll being such a recent show I honestly think it was in very poor taste to air it there. This doc should be calling them out. Not being championed by them.
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6/10
Part of an important message that needs to be heard but flawed in execution.
camerong-7335726 October 2022
This docu-series is truly eye-opening and does well to call attention to a disturbing trend that, unsurprising to me, has been going on for some time. I could relate well with this doc because the central story happened in rural Texas, a culture I'm very familiar with. Grooming teenagers sexually in schools is a problem that seems to happen often under our noses. While I believe that the teachers doing this need to be exposed and held accountable, I don't believe that we should gloss over any responsibility the victims might have had in the situations. The filmmaker, Cheryl, doesn't seem to claim any responsibility for her part in the affair with her teacher. He did manipulate her as a teenager but it seems that she, if no one else, should have realized "this isn't right and he's a married man". She allowed this affair to carry on into her early 20s. I realize a young person's brain isn't fully developed until early to mid 20s but it seems that an alarm should have sounded at some point. I'm glad that the girl Heaven in Miami was able to share her story but I think this doc should have been expanded to include other accounts.

I do not believe that Tom Warrick was not sexually involved with any students as he claims. From looking at the photos, there seemed to be at least some boundaries pushed. As someone who works with young people, I would not spend much unnecessary time outside the classroom with them much less be photographed shirtless with them under my arm in bathing suits. The comments (by a white woman) about the toxicity of white men being in charge were inappropriate and irrelevant to the topic at hand. All together, this was a well-meant attempt to uncover a serious matter though I believe more time and scrutiny could have been used in the production.
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5/10
Conflicted
suspect201 September 2022
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This is entirely one sided. They have to black out the guys face 50+ times in every photo because this is slander if it was never brought up in court. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure this type of thing happens, and that really is a shame. But don't make a documentary that is only from one perspective. Don't show a clip of emails and highlight one sentence ignoring 20 others that provide context. Don't only interview your friends and family.

I feel for her and don't think this situation was right by any means, but his identity was hidden for a reason and it lends me towards the conclusion that everything she is saying is overly biased. If he did these things I still statutory rape obviously, she shows pictures of him (face scratched out) with colleagues, names the home town. Basically gets as close to the line as legally possible without overtly stating his name.
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6/10
Too many unanswered questions
cathycritter11 October 2022
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Obviously the filmmaker and the other victims are very brave for coming forward in this documentary. However, we are given very little information. For example, Heaven tells us little about the abuse other than a brief mention of what they did (hand job, oral sex) Where did it take place, always in the classroom? How long did it go on, did she tell anyone about it at the time? How often? How did it occur with such secrecy-was it during the school day always, or after hours? Did it continue past HS? Of course it's difficult to revisit these memories, I would guess, but It is a documentary. Details matter. Viewers cannot get invested in the story and truly feel how terrible it was, if we don't know what happened. Way too much footage is spent on the victims commiserating with each other and telling each other how they have had the same experience, but that experience is not sufficiently imparted to the viewer. Allison says several times how her college years were ruined by the abuse. How did the abuse impact her college years? What happened? Did she miss classes, do drugs, stay in her room from depression? Party too hard? We don't know because she never tells us. She doesn't give us too much detail about the grooming and abuse either. We know that he gave her a suggestive poem, he made her feel special, and they 1st kissed in his house. Then she moved in with him in Utah and stayed in the basement and they had sex. But questions abound. Where and when did the abuse take place during the HS years? ? Was it always in his house? How did the wife not have an inkling of what was going on? And when Allison moved in with them in another state, that didn't ring any alarm bells with the wife either? What about Allison's mom? The predator had managed to convince her that there was nothing going on, even though her gut feeling told her otherwise. Are you telling me that when Allison decided to move in with this guy, that this did not ignite any new suspicion in Allison's mom?? The scene at the kitchen table where Allison and her mom are talking about when her mom confronted the predator, why didn't Allison ask her -mom, but later, didn't you think it was weird when I moved in with him??

Other frustrating moments were when Allison went to meet with that guy Tom. He definitely seemed weird right off the bat. Even before they told us that he was being charged with abuse, I thought to myself, well, he looks like a predator himself! But why doesn't Allison call Tom on the thing her friend said-that Tom threatened her friend to not say anything more about the teacher abusing Allison, or else Tom would give the friend a bad grade. Allison meets him for a barbecue in the backyard and doesn't say a word. Why doesn't she ask Tom, why did you say that to my friend? Did you cover for my abuser? Why did you try to hush my friend up? Is it because you are an abuser yourself?" We see him on a zoom later, being interviewed by Allison's associate, I think, where he says "I don't remember that." The associate has no follow up , such as "It's odd to me that you say you don't remember it, rather than say, I would never say that to a student!" I gave it a 6 only because it is an important subject to bring to light and the women were courageous in putting their story out there.
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9/10
Liar
pattipalmer4 September 2022
The male teacher who agreed to be in the documentary should have refused. He's so obviously lying. He and his buddy were both attracted to young girls and acted on it. The teacher on camera did not get caught. He was in the principals office more than once over inappropriate relationships with female students. (By his own admission) He makes excuses by saying he wasn't trained and he was young. Pffft! Pathetic. He was an educated professional responsible for younger people. Backing that girl into a corner to tell he to shut her mouth about the rumors is and was bullying, intimidating her to protect his bro.
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7/10
A Necessary Conversation with Messy Parts
summersapphire-249033 October 2022
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This is the first documentary of its kind, one that openly and without barriers, brings into question not only the predators themselves, but the people around them whose silence became a contributing factor. The conversation was necessary, but it often got messy.

I am not talking about the accusations, but the format of the documentary itself. While we begin hearing from Cheryl, that quickly changes and there really is no clear-cut description of her relationship with the unnamed teacher. Other perspectives and stories are introduced in a way that feels rushed, cluelessly chopped together, with missing parts. There is too much jumping around in the third episode, before we finally hear from Heaven in the final episode about what happened with Mr. Meyers. There are too many disclaimers about that situation, which appear to be made for tv with commercials, and not cut to fit streaming viewing.

The substance of this documentary is a 10/10, but its formatting and messy storytelling brings it down.
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2/10
Information overload
mcsanch4728 September 2022
A lot of useless shots that don't add to the story. The main character is repetitive. Had to fast forward through a lot of scenes because they dragged on for so long. Should not be a multi episode series but a movie. I can empathize with her story, but it's overall not a well done documentary.

Couldn't get to the end of the series because it didn't draw my attention. Her friend that helps the documentary doesn't add much to its value. It was interesting they were able to get the teacher to speak, I was surprised when he came onto the screen. I'm glad the issue was brought up and is creepy this teacher thought it was okay. The message was present the execution was wasn't there.
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8/10
Why are we questioning the victims??
stefaniemccool5 September 2022
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Being a grown woman who has been under this type of abuse in the past (when I was 19yrs. Old in a work environment) and then seeing the responses from people who are blaming the victims, this is ridiculous. I am very proud of all of the victims that were speaking out and I am very proud of them for HOW WELL they have continued their lives!! They have been able to show their intelligence and sheer strength to get through these situations Amazingly. I know women can scream Help in a truly devious way, but I think they did well. I do believe that Tom may be questionable for sure. My heart went out to Heaven and her wanting to make sure that Jason gets the justice that is deserved. I am sorry but if I had a daughter in which this happened too, Jason would not be "waiting for a court date", but maybe that is me.
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1/10
She isn't to blame
Kmmlng3 September 2022
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Cheryl puts the blame on everyone else. Of course it's the teachers fault but she also puts the blame on her classmates, friends, mother, friends parents, school staff even today. She wants people to view the events from her prospective back then and how she was able to fall for this teacher but she's doesn't view everyone else's from back then. For example, she blames her mom for not checking her email so that's what allowed it to continue. Even though her mother confronted her and the teacher and they both denied a relationship and made up excuses for journal entries. She trusted her daughter and went against her gut. She blames her classmates and old friends for "turning a blind eye back then and not taking accountability now" One of her friends did tell her parents and the parents reported it. The school investigated it and again she denied it and of course the teacher did. Friends heard rumors and reached out and she denied it and they believed her. Im definitely NOT blaming her but she shouldn't put the blame on people other than him. She can't change what happened to her and they can't go back knowing what they know now and change what happened then either.
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9/10
The negative reviews on this clearly show the state of our society
Stephythinks3 September 2022
The negative reviews on this clearly show the state of our society that doesn't understand Power Dynamics and how victims, students (whether girls or boys), high schoolers, should not be blamed for the inappropriate relationships and abuse that goes on. It's disgusting to read some of the comments blaming the girls that have had this happen to them. They are TEENS. The adults know what they are doing and it is not okay.

It's time predatory behavior is held accountable and schools are safer for children. Obviously the hypersexualization of teens in the media and especially now with social media such as tiktok etc doesn't help anything and aids in making children more vulnerable and susceptible to abuse. It's sad. Parents and adults that care, watch out for the signs. Take care of our kids.
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1/10
So poorly done that it's unwatchable
deenagianoncelli8 September 2022
This is not a review of the substance of the story but the series is produced in such a disorganized and ineffective way that it's unwatchable. I had to turn it off. It's more like a documentary about making the documentary. While I empathize and agree that the subjects of the show are victims, they talk about victimization without really telling the story. It's like the entire substance of what happened is completely missing and you're supposed to just watch the aftermath so you can't fully understand it and have to make assumptions. I'll say it again, I really wanted to like this show, but it was just completely unwatchable.
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9/10
Honest
turneralauren2 September 2022
I found this documentary refreshing; it's honest and necessary, and it's smart. The documentary doesn't tell the viewer 'what's happening, what to think, who to judge'...the takeaway is up to the viewer. There's plenty to observe if you enjoy abstracting themes. Cheryl and her team did a great job revealing the many nuances embedded in society that feeds misogyny, abuse, chauvinism... This isn't a story about one person's experience - that's the starting point. I thought the timing and placement for how each person was introduced was spot on, particularly the teacher with red hair (I can't remember his name) and the scene where him and Cheryl are talking outside - that was 👌.
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1/10
3 Word Summary: Total Let-down
jeocreationz27 December 2022
I thought I would love this, but this might just be the worst documentary I think I've ever seen. I actually had to turn it off. The dialogue was super drawn out and there was a sound in the background that never seemed to change. They could have done so much more to tell the story, but instead this girl made it all about her. I get that it was her first time making a documentary, but it didn't feel put together well at all, and reminded me of watching a documentary about making a documentary. There are so many ways this could have gone, but the mark was sorely missed, She wanted to talk about herself way too much without saying much at all, and it was unbearably boring. I would have loved to see much more intention behind this because there really does need to be a lot more healing around this subject, but alas...I doubt this documentary will inspire the much needed change our society so desperately needs.
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8/10
Glad This Documentary Was Made
mrmrsdaadams3 September 2022
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I'm very glad a documentary like this was made. Shedding light on preditors needs to happen more often. And I'm so sorry this happened to Cheryl! I only gave it a "8" because I wish she would have put less blame on her friends and mother. Her friends were 16/17 years old too! It's hypocritical to say you werent at fault because of your age when at the same time you blame your friends, who were the same age, for not saying anything. As for her Mom, I get that Cheryl feels as if she was not protected by her mother. But at the same time, her mother tried to get to the bottom of it and was deceived by the preditor just as Cheryl was. Again, I'm really glad the documentary was made. It needed to shed light on a very real problem. Just don't blame people who were children or who themselves were deceived as well.
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2/10
Honest feed back on errors. Documentary?
bijouboone3 September 2022
In this documentary at one point towards the end of the last episode "White men, are to blame for the victimization and lack of safety of young girls and women, and minorities." The main problem I have with this is crimes on children and women is a multi cultural problem. This is a fact, and this is totally misleading to the viewer and is not factual. This rant, was a disappointment in a good documentary, it was an attempt to go with a popular narrative that has flooded our culture right now. This was obviously a biased view, not based on fact at all.

Disappointing.

In the United States this victimization of children is an epidemic, and putting out faults statements about it damages any efforts to fix the problem.

This only makes me believe that there are other non factual parts of this documentary. That is why this documentary only has three stars. I gave it 2, maybe in the next documentary, which I will not watch, keep in mind that a lot of us have been raised by ethical, loving, good providing white men.

And than towards the end Cheryl is upset that victims need to explain what they went through and more fingers should by pointed at the perpetrators. Ugh! The judiciary system is broken I think that is a sound experience for most. But, we need to hear from the victims in detail to appropriately pass down sound judgment.

Some statements were made that were odd and came access as unbelievable, or unreasonable.
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10/10
Shame on you Cindy!
kellyleannepaul1 September 2022
The 1 star review left by Cindy is exactly why these issues will persist. Blaming the victim is in appropriate and morally wrong. Unfortunately many people are stuck thinking like Cindy.

This documentary shows exactly why no one wants to speak up. It shares the gray area and nuance of these issues in a way we've known but have not yet seen. Teachers should never EVER cross the threshold into flirting with a student or worse.

And just because the relationship crossed into adulthood has no baring on the fact that was morally wrong from the start.

Very proud of these survivors and excited to see the documentarians work in the future on this topic or other topics.

And oof Bob thinking he's one of the good guys, he's trying to play both sides while himself being a predator.
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1/10
She is more intent on playing victim then actually making a good documentary
zodiackillercontact12 December 2022
There were very few concrete facts. If you're a delusional women who unfairly hates all men then you'll probably enjoy this. If you have a brain, class and decency you won't be able to make it past the first episode. This woman is equivalently as bad as the stereotypical "aggressive male predictor," but on the opposite side of the spectrum. She, and people like her, are a real problem to society and will be called out rightfully so after all this metoo dust settles. She relishes playing the victim and slyly taking down men with emotional and mental manipulation - it gives her power that she should try to attain by actually making good films and not just filming herself gossip about unclear slanderous topics she can't even show the guys face because she knows she'd get sued for lying. The way she overgeneralize all men (namely white men), is nothing short of disgusting. Imagine if a white men characterized all white women in such a way. What an embarrassment. She absolves herself of any responsibility after willingly carrying on with this relationship for such a long time. Sounds like she has nothing but excuses and overly dramatic and inaccurate accusations. This woman is quite frankly mentally unwell if we're being honest. Only seriously emotionally skewed women will find this particular documentary entertaining. Real problems should be address but I've noticed all these new metoo documentaries always have women talking about how they are such victims simply by being women and willfully putting themselves in so many positions when they have COUNTLESS possibilities to escape, as many other women do, but when they get into the details on these shows, there is very littler hard evidence. It's getting out of hand. Shame on her and all the devious women exploiting the metoo movement.
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9/10
Very though provoking
LadyCoops31 August 2022
I think that some people will not understand this documentary and fall into a victim-blaming mentality. You cannot not take a 16/17 year old child to be your "Girlfriend" when you are a fully grown man ... often with a wife already .... AND be in a position of power, such as many teachers have. It requires a lot of grooming on their part. These ladies were children when this happened. The series touches on the historical sexualisation of young girls, the "Lolita" aspect, and how a predator can turn that into grooming. I'd like to see a follow up episode when Heaven Rubin gets through the next hurdle, which she has been waiting wayyyyyy too long for. Cheryl Nichols' bravery is astounding. I hope she get's the closure she needs.
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2/10
I could get into it
llamadestroyer4 September 2022
First and foremost, what happened here should have never happened. A teacher grooming a student is not okay and that man should have been charged. I was groomed too at 15 by an older man. I feel for the woman because it ruined my formative years. However I couldn't get into the documentary. Too boring, says her friend is an objective partner(do you know what objective means), doesn't get to the point. Blames society and media in the 00s although this has been a problem from the Dawn of time and continues. It's like the point of her documentary is to get back at her groomer. Still is in contact with her groomer to the point of being able to have long emails with him. Don't get me wrong he is disgusting but the main character almost seems gleeful at outting this man and reading his writings to her. It was too gross for me to continue watching. Maybe you'll like it but it wasn't for me.
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10/10
Necessary and scary
Moonstrike95 September 2022
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I have just watched the second episode and I was struck by the interview with the teacher at the end who was a friend of the groomer Cheryl survived. And I must say, he should be investigated. His interview was defensive, and he closed his eyes when detailing the moments he'd be pulled aside and questioned over sex on his desk. And his defense was why would I ruin my filing system? Not only were his eyes closed when he said that, but that's not a normal defense. I'd say a more innocent response would have been, I would never have sex with a child. I don't know, the man needs to be looked into.

It's all super compelling and I hope will open the eyes of parents everywhere. A predator can be anywhere and anyone.
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3/10
It's typical that no one in this documentary wants to take any
XYandZzzzzz12 October 2022
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Responsibility for what happened. Now, I'm not the brightest crayon in the box, but even at 16 I knew a relationship with a teacher and a married one at that would be wrong. The reason this woman was eager, yes eager to continue on with this illicit relationship is because it stroked her ego and that is ALL she cared about. Period. It's obvious she has still to realize that truth. In this modern age, ego and arrogance (despite the destructiveness of both), rule the day. Yes, he was manipulative but if she wants the audience to believe she was just a itty, bitty naive innocent who "diunt do nuffin" wrong is laughabled. The guy is obviously a predator and needs to be revealed and thrown in jail but that doesn't mean she is an innocent bystander I can't believe that girls think it's ok to have relationships with teachers as this documentary implied due to the "culture" of the 2000s . What's wrong with people today? Do they truly have no sense of right or wrong outside what the popularity culture dictates? If so, then how base and vapid we have all become. Hollywood shares much of the blame. All that said, the documentary was put together well and kept my attention and I was very interested in the psychology surrounding it but then the human condition can be both amazing and disappointing.
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8/10
Grooming, News to Me
Andreashairu3 September 2022
I don't have kids and this topic was shocking and thought provoking. The influence teachers have, usually good, to conduct this grooming in scary. These are young girls, not women, being grinned and taken advantage of by grown men.

The way school boards handle the misconduct of these teachers is a disgusting display of passing the buck. The laws need to change. So many more students traumatized because proper action was not taken. The victim blaming must stop! This should be required viewing for all school personnel. I

Cheryl is incredibly brave to share her experiences. Obviously, she's not the first or last victim. I hope she gets an Emmy nod.
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1/10
Missed opportunity to expose a huge problem in our schools
sdimcg19 October 2022
I was very hopeful that this show would thoughtfully and factually tackle a huge problem in our society-child grooming. Unfortunately this "documentary" fell flat. We DO have a huge problem with educators and other adults using their positions of authority to groom and abuse children-both boys and girls. This push to discuss sex, gender and other related topics is completely inappropriate in a school setting and opens the door to all manner of abuse toward children. This faux documentary however was typical of this generation of storytellers-self indulgent, narcissistic and full of long drawn out dialogue with no point. Missed opportunity to really shine a light on something so disgusting and pervasive in our society.
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10/10
These stories need to be told
lizkinchen-877767 September 2022
I gave this series 10 stars because, regardless of style and even the details of these two stories, this kind of grooming and preying on teens happens and it damages lives. The betrayal of trust and the secret-keeping are corrosive. The more this is brought into the public eye, the better. Teenagers are not equipped with the life experience or psychological development to be considered an adult on equal terms with these older predators (not exclusively, but often older men with teen girls), especially those in a position of power. It really is a crime - morally and legally. It is the job of the school system to protect the children in its care, not to foster an environment that turns a blind eye and allows children to be hurt. People may not realize the long-term damage that can result from these relationships, but I speak from experience to say that it runs deep and is long-lasting. To come forward is an act of courage.
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5/10
It's a real problem but I don't think she should be the spokesperson
meezerfan12319 October 2022
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Honestly, this girl is just not the one. Yes, she got involved with an adult when she was 16. She also continued the relationship 5 years into being a legal adult, lived with him, and laughs about defaulting on a loan she got him to co-sign for. As an adult, she moved into the home he shared with his wife and had sex with him in that home when the wife was away. It also comes out that she cheated on him when they were two adults having a relationship. He's no prize but neither is she. It becomes more of a documentary about two bad people than a story about a bad person and his victim. I just don't feel sorry for her, so the whole thing seems pointless.
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