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18 out of 21 people found the following review useful:
Better than expected, 17 August 2004
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Author:
jhs39 from Chicago, IL
Dario Argento's new thriller about a serial killer who forces the police to
play video poker against him in order to save the lives of women he has
kidnapped doesn't rank with the director's best work, but it is fast paced
and entertaining if you aren't expecting too much.
After the disastrous Phanton of the Opera Argento made Sleepless, which was
a self-conscious attempt to duplicate the success of his 1970's giallos,
down to giving long defunct group Goblin credit for the soundtrack.
Sleepless was certainly watchable, but it felt more like an Argento rip-off
by an inferior director rather than the real thing, like the master had
somehow turned into Antonio Bido or Luigi Cosi.
This time around Argento makes a movie that is less obviously grounded in
his own previous success--The Card Player is far more generic than
Sleepless, but since Argento isn't trying so hard to recapture past magic
the film tends to work much better.
Unfortunately plotting and characterization have always been his achilles
heel. Classic Argento films are about set-pieces and style, not plot.
Stendhal Syndrome suffered because it turned into a character driven
psychological thriller, which didn't play to his strengths as a filmmaker.
The Card Player is largely plot-driven, lacking the stylistic flourishes and
memorable set-pieces that defined his classic films and also offset his
weaknesses as a writer. The Card Player generally feels like a made for TV
crime thriller or even a pilot for a potential television
show.
But while The Card Player isn't great or even mildly believable it is pretty
fun on a cheesy B movie level, and the finale involving a handcuff key, a
racing train and a lap-top manages to capture the delirious goofiness that
came easily to the director back when he made Phenomena and Deep Red. It's
not hard to imagine Argento giggling when he came up with his climactic
scene and the sense of fun is infectious.
Most fans have probably accepted by now that Dario Argento isn't the
filmmaker he was twenty years ago and that he will likely never make another
classic thriller, but The Card Player is at least good enough not to
disappoint, given the lowered expectations that now inevitably greet one of
his movies. For me this was easily his best since Trauma. It also offers
reason for optimism: Sleepless was a huge improvement over Phantom of the
Opera and The Card Player is better than Sleepless, giving fans a reason to
look forward to his next film.
15 out of 21 people found the following review useful:
Not as bad as people say, 22 January 2004
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Author:
Michael Mackenzie (whiggles@ntlworld.com) from Glasgow, Scotland
After getting almost unanimously negative reviews, I was dreading watching
IL CARTAIO. It turns out that the film is not bad at all. No, it's not
another SUSPIRIA, but nor is it a PHANTOM OF THE OPERA, thankfully. People
keep going on about the absence of Argento's trademark style. Well, I want
to know what style that would be? Suspiria's? Phenomena's? The Stendhal
Syndrome's? I think you get my point. Argento doesn't have one single
style
-- he had many, and I think that Il Cartaio's style is different rather
than
absent. I personally liked the camerawork and the cold look of the film.
The
use of shadow is really good, and I think this has got to be the only film
Argento has done that is obviously set in the winter. It gave everything
an
eery look.
It's a tightly constructed little thriller with a lot of very tense
set-piece scenes. The lack of gore confused me a bit, but everyone seems
to
forget the impalement of a certain character. That, to me, was pretty gory
although admittedly not flamboyant. In many ways it seems a lot like the
antithesis of Non Ho Sonno, which was extremely over the top in terms of
violence.
I think Tenebre was the last film Argento did that received almost
unanimous
critical acclaim on its initial release. All of his other triumphs since
then have grown on people over the years. I don't think Il Cartaio will be
any different.
10 out of 13 people found the following review useful:
A different Argento, to be sure, but that's not bad Argento!, 2 April 2004
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jangu from Stockholm, Sweden
I have read the reviews complaining about that Dario has abandoned his
style and all the gore to produce a tame TV-thriller. Far from the
truth, according to me! I really think that this is the best he has
done since "Opera". Granted, his stylish touch might seem to be muted
compared to the baroque thriller of the 70s and 80s, but this cold and
bleak atmosphere that he conjures up this time along with very brightly
lit camera-work for most of the scenes, is something I enjoyed
throughout! Sure, the gore is almost totally absent (apart from one
scene), but as a whole this picture is much more efficiently done. The
pace is fluent and unlike most of his other movies, there is actually
no point where the characters just stand around and talk (and sometimes
his players have been involved in some truly atrocious conversation) to
fill out the time.
*MINOR SPOILER* And in "Il cartaio" the three main actors are actually
very good! They are people you can care about and when they are in
danger or die, you feel sorry for them. *END OF SPOILER* Like I
mentioned before, I enjoyed the bleak look of the movie...as always
classy camera-work in every frame of an Argento picture! And Claudio
Simonetti's score is his best in years even though you might be just a
little bit tired of it by the time the movie reaches it's conclusion.
And talking about the finale, I found it both interesting, but at the
same time also maybe a little bit of a letdown. However, the endings
have been a bit weak lately in Dario's films. Not since "Tenebrae" has
there been a really powerful conclusion. And two minor complaints
finally...it was too easy to guess who the killer was. This has been
mentioned before and I think it is true. The killer's identity could
have been better camouflaged without a "certain scene" (you will know
which one). And the card scenes went on too long on two occasions. The
constant screaming from the victims became annoying in these scenes and
I almost wanted them to die just to make them shut up! Otherwise, his
best work in years and a film where he is not just content with
repeating an old formula (like in "Sleepless" which I liked anyhow),
but is actually trying to find a whole new path in his art.
6 out of 7 people found the following review useful:
Not bad at all: little gore but plenty of tension, 7 February 2004
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Shusai from Brisbane, Australia
I have the good fortune to be working in Italy now and, as Dario Argento
is
my favorite filmmaker, I saw 'Il Cartaio' as soon as it came out here.
Like
'Nonhosonno' it's a tense, unnerving urban thriller with a number of flaws
but enough sublime moments to make it stand out above pretty much
everything
else playing at the moment. Gorehounds will be disappointed though, as
'Cartaio' eschews the over-the-top bloodshed of almost every previous
Argento film. But most giallo buffs should find plenty of nerve-wracking
thrills and intriguing plot twists to hold their attention.There are also
sympathetic characters and great location-shooting in Rome.
I enjoyed Simonetti's electronic score, although I felt it was slightly
overused in the second half of the film. It sets the scene nicely during
the
opening credits and is used to great effect in the 3rd murder sequence, a
truly tense scene which really had my pulse-rate running! On the subject
of
the murder sequences, they rely on suggestion rather than visceral impact,
but are mostly effective for the electrifying and perverse tension they
exude.
Of the numerous killings, two of the poker-game sequences (the second and
the fourth) went on for too long and the victims' shrill screams started
to
get annoying.The other murders, though, were wonderfully timed and quite
shocking, especially since the characters are surprisingly sympathetic and
better-developed than in many other Argento films. Argento has never used
such a minimalist approach before, and in my opinion it works, because
when
those creepy camera movements, stylistic flourishes, and visual enigmas do
actually occur, they have all the more impact.
I'm happy to see that Argento is continuing to mature and metamorphose as
a
film maker. But I also admit a desire that he'll return to the all-out
gory
shocks and high-baroque style of his earlier masterpieces. I give 'Il
Cartaio' an 8/10, just below 'Nonhosonno'.
7 out of 9 people found the following review useful:
A bit disappointing, 26 July 2004
Author:
Petros Rodakinias from Volos, Greece
What can I say about this film? It certainly is not a typical Argento film
(and I mean that in a very broad sense - there are some things you expect
from an Argento film, like gore, tension and a certain visual style), but is
it really bad? Well, it's not a terrible movie but from the man that gave us
Suspiria, Deep Red and Tenebrae I expected much more.
First of all it's not giallo but more of a run of the mill detective story.
Now, this wouldn't be bad if it was a good detective story, but it's not.
The identity of the killer was predictable and some parts of the story did
not make any sense. On top of that, the acting was not very good and the
music was at best tolerable. And the final scene was just bad and did not
make much sense.
The only good things about the movie were some great shots of Rome, and a
couple of good, powerful scenes (like the first 2 murders) that reminded me
a little of Argento's better films.
It's not a very bad movie, it's just a mediocre one. But since it's an
Argento movie I expected much more. I give it 5 out of
10.
5 out of 6 people found the following review useful:
Yeah, it's alright...., 16 August 2006
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Author:
Pet_Rock from United States
Of course it's not Dario's best, but it's not his worst. I give it a
5.5, leaning more on the 6 side.
Anna Mari (Taras Kostyuk) is a policewoman working with an Irish
policeman (Liam Cunningham) and a young poker champ (Silvio Muccino) to
catch a killer who kills his young female victims if the police loose a
game of video poker.
This movie seems like an okay mix of "Silence of the Lambs", "Saw 2",
and "CSI".
The music, like in all of Darios films, is great. The look of the dead
bodies are also fantastic and spooky.
However, Phoebe Scholfield and Jay Benedict (both first time writers)
did a horrible job of the dialogue. In fact, I didn't like most of the
writing. It was confusing at times but as long as you don't think too
deep into it, you can enjoy this as a neat little
screaming-and-crying-girl flick with great special effects and so-so
kills. They're so-so because most of them are offscreen and similar,
but towards the end they get great and unique.
So you could easily enjoy this if you just want to pass the time, but
don't expect another Argento classic.
5 out of 6 people found the following review useful:
Not great Argento but not awful, 25 October 2005
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lilac_point_burmese from Sydney, Australia
This movie deserves a bit more credit - it is not the best Argento film but it is certainly better than Phantom of the Opera. I think the main complaint that an Argento fan could have about this film is it is very un-Argento - it feels a bit more like a gory Ruth Rendell. However the plot is quite tight, the poker playing serial killer is a new concept that I quite appreciated, the main actress I thought was excellent, she reminded me a lot of Franka Potente. Definitely give this one a watch, its not the usual Argento style but it is still a good thriller. Do not watch this one if you are not a fan of Agatha Christie/Ruth Rendell/Inspector Morse and are expecting Argento's usual slightly bizarre edge - this is a pretty ordinary "detective trying to catch serial killer" flick.
4 out of 5 people found the following review useful:
And I had such high hopes for this one, 25 August 2005
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Author:
bensonmum2 from Tennessee
*** This review may contain spoilers ***
A deranged serial killer wants to play a game of internet poker with
the police. But the stakes are very high. If the police win, the woman
he has kidnapped goes free. If the killer wins, the captive dies. It's
up to an Italian policewoman and an Irish agent to stop this high-tech
killer before anymore young women die.
What Works:
- Set pieces. I have seen even the most ardent Argento critics admit
that the worst of his movies have some nice set pieces. Argento's
problem has always been stringing these set pieces together into a
coherent story. While I could cite several examples, one set piece in
The Card Player that really stands out is the scene where the killer is
hiding in the policewoman's house. It's suspenseful and very nicely
done.
- Nasty deaths. Although most of the actual scenes of murder take place
off screen, we are treated to the nasty aftermath. The scenes of the
police poking the murdered bodies in the morgue are as gruesome as
you'll see. Especially when one of the bodies "fights" back. Eeeewwww.
- Acting. The two leads (Stefania Rocca and Liam Cunningham) are
excellent. Both came across as believable and sometimes that's all you
need. Plus, the chemistry between the two was very good. I could
actually see the two of them together as a couple. It wasn't forced as
is so often the case.
What Doesn't Work:
- Contrived Plot. Too often, The Card Player relies on the most
unrealistic coincidences to advance the plot. It's as if the planets
line-up just right for the killer to do and get away with the things he
does. For example, in one scene, the killer uses a woman to lure a
poker expert into a trap. The problem is that the man must follow the
woman over what seems like half of Italy until he arrives at just the
right spot before the killer springs into action. How does the killer
know the poker guy will follow the woman that far? What if he tires of
the chase and calls it quits? What if he meets another woman and goes
with her? It felt too contrived to me to be believable.
- Acting. As good as the two leads are, much of the rest of the cast is
terrible. I don't know if it's more a function of poor dubbing than it
is actual acting ability, but the supporting cast doesn't come across
very well. Some of the police captain's top assistants are about as
convincing as the Three Stooges (not to mention they come across like
the Three Stooges).
- The Poker Expert. The police captain's daughter has been kidnapped
and could very well be the next victim. The police desperately need a
poker expert to increase their odds of winning the game of online
poker. Do they turn to a well-known, renowned poker player? Do they
turn to a mathematician to assist in determining probabilities in
poker? Heck, do they even seek out an someone with half a brain? The
answer: No! Instead, the police put the fate of the kidnapped women in
the hands of a brainless punk who plays video poker for pocket change.
Argento's The Card Player is a real hit or miss proposal. While Argento
again shows his skill with set pieces and is blessed with some good
acting, there are too many plot points that don't make much sense or
are too far-fetched for me to rate The Card Player any higher.
6 out of 9 people found the following review useful:
Solid thriller, terribly underrated, 21 October 2004
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Author:
Bjorn (jbjorns) from Iceland
Dario Argento's latest thriller, The Card Player, is not Argento at his
best, but still pretty good.
Stefania Rocca plays a detective trying to hunt down a serial killer
who kills his victims after defeating the police in internet poker
games. Liam Cunningham is the Irish cop assisting her.
This movie doesn't display much of Argento's visual creativity as his
earlier films did and as a whole is quite different from any of his
other films. For one thing there's no real gore to speak of. With the
exception of a few grisly after the fact autopsies there's nothing here
in that department since most of the killings take place off-screen.
Instead Argento focuses on playing it straight, like almost
deliberately trying to appeal to the mainstream. This could well be an
American movie, except maybe for the hilarious dubbing here and there
by supporting characters (but that's a trait one is so used to by now).
As usual, the supporting actors don't deliver the goods but the two
leads are quite excellent. Liam Cunningham really delivers in a cliché
ridden role and Stefania Rocca shows she's got the goods (in all
departments). If only the film had more of the "Argento-look" and feel,
there's definitely something missing.
That said, this film does have it's good points, and a great touch here
and there from the Italian maestro. A stalking sequence is a particular
standout, quite unnerving and masterfully filmed. One character's
tragic demise is deliciously grisly and the finale comes off as
original and generally well played out.
All in all, a (completely) different Argento is still more interesting
than most other directors out there, whether when trying to appeal to
the mainstream or sticking to his trademark giallo's.
A terribly underrated thriller, deserves a higher rating.
2 out of 2 people found the following review useful:
Fantastic Argento effort, 23 May 2009
Author:
slayrrr666 (slayrrr666@yahoo.com) from Los Angeles, Ca
"The Card Player" is a much better-than-expected outing from Argento.
**SPOILERS**
Working late one evening, Rome Det. Anna Mari, (Stefania Rocca) is
requested into playing video poker with a madman for the sake of a
captured tourist, and when superiors Berardelli, (Cosimo Fusco) and
Commissioner Marini, (Adalberto Maria Merli) refuse, she is killed in
front of them. In the ensuing investigation, British Officer John
Brennan, (Liam Cunningham) is called onto the scene to help the Italian
detectives handle the case. When the two eventually find ace poker
player Remo, (Silvio Muccino) in the city, he is enlisted to play for
the cops when the kidnapper strikes again and forces the police to keep
playing for the different victims. Finally able to get a lead on the
psychopath, believing it's one of their own, they race to stop them
before they are again forced to play for a victim's life.
The Good News: This one had a lot going for it. One of it's best
features is the use of the poker games, which here is quite clever and
incredibly novel. It's something that's quite familiar to most even if
it's not been indulged in by all, and that alone makes it's inclusion
feel very real and quite plausible, something that not many films have.
The fact that there's also the twist with the games being used to build
up something really depraved, with the games based on the fate of
different kidnapped-victims' lives. These scenes themselves are also
quite good, with the brutality of what's happening occurring through
the web-cam and the on instance where the victim fights back is also
thrilling and quite suspenseful. It's really new concept and feels
well-done based on how it's used. There's also a lot of good parts to
be had with the killer's identity, making it a good mystery how it came
about and is definitely something that helps this one, as is like
usual, there's a healthy number of suspects that are given attention to
it and all feel like the culprit, making the surprise revelation at the
end rather enjoyable and really well-done. The main feature to the
film, though, is the rather-enjoyable and entertaining last-half hour,
which is where all the main action revolves. Once the chase through the
streets with the waitress and the tense walk-through of the
underground, it's just non-stop afterward. From the boat-ride to the
discovery of the last piece to the puzzle of identifying the killer
that really takes the film on a nice twist and the ensuing aftermath
that occurs afterward, there's hardly any part of these scenes that's
slow, boring or doesn't work at all. The discovery of the mystery is
great, twisting it already into a really new and enjoyable experience,
the action in the several chases are fun and over-the-top, while the
tension-packed finale is just excellent and caps the film on a high
note. Even the kills are great, where one is impaled through a
spike-laden board, another is stabbed through the neck, some gunshots,
and then the main one, which has one run over by a train. These here
are all that make the film enjoyable.
The Bad News: There wasn't a whole lot that didn't work here. One of
the main parts to this is that the film doesn't really have all that
interesting of a middle segment. Most of these scenes are quite dull,
as it's just the detectives running around Rome tracking the player,
then trying to convince the player to play for them, all of which doing
nothing to really make the killer a target in these scenes. Most of
them are just endless, carrying on forever with little to no impact on
the events at hand since they never try anyone else other than the one,
which makes it such a forgone conclusion of his involvement it makes
the preceding moments in the film worthless with all the hassle trying
to convince him wasting time. At least make several others offers so
that there's a small sense of urgency to find one to do this, as this
one really makes it clear that's where it's going and the attempt at
wasting time doesn't do it any favors. The last flaw is the film's lone
attempt at making the middle interesting, with the attack at the house
simply not being that good. Aside from not being able to see anything
due to the darkness, it's impossible to tell something even happened
until afterward its over so fast, leaving a state of confusion as to
what happened altogether. Beyond these, though, the film isn't that
bad.
The Final Verdict: Not that bad of an entry at all, much better than
expected and certainly worthwhile due to it's good points. Certainly
give this a shot if you're into the other works of Argento, know of the
lifestyle or are interested, while those that expect his earlier works
every time should heed caution.
Rated UR/R: Graphic Language, Violence and Nudity
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