3 out of 3 people found the following comment useful :- Damn (Major Spoilers), 22 January 2004
Author:
la_princessa_de_la_noche from Pine Ridge, South Dakota
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
Alright alright. Yeah it was a pretty good movie. Very sad and
melodramatic.
I liked it.. but at the same time I really hated it. There are always
these
movies coming out about we Natives.. and they all always have the same
stereotypic story lines. The drunk parent. The Stuggling Child. Usually
theres a Good Person. Like look at "Smoke Signals".. Always the same. Look
how they depicted Pine Ridge in the movie "Skins"!! That movie made me
sick
to my stomach to watch. And that movie is shown at school to children here
so they may know how they are depicted to the rest of the world. Its no
wonder some people look down upon us. We are shown in movies to be drunks,
and rapists and even more openly, as DIRTY people . Yes there are those
who
are all those descriptions. But then there are those who arent. Who try to
live their lives everyday to the fullest. I am 15 years old and I have
lived
here on rez all my life. And I am no drunk or rapist and I am certainly
not
dirty. But people like my family arent shown as much. It is the trouble
and
horror that is always shown. We are still being kept down by our image.
And
what hope the movies do show is tainted with loss and pain. But I agree
with
that image. Because that is what its like. From the ashes we rise again.
But
still.. I am adamantly against movies like "Skins" those are unrealistic
and
truly stupid. Lying to the people. Not just Native Americans..all people.
That man who made was looking for praise for his supposed understanding of
native pain. I'd like to give him pain.. but thats another story
lol.
This movie.. about Mollie who gets kicked of the Reservation after her man
dies and then moves to Grand Avenue to stay with her cousin. Her daughter:
Justine has issues. She's a hoe with an attitude. And she deserves to be.
But at the same time, likeable for her underlying strength and weakness'.
Her sister, Alice, is your regular good girl type. Responsible,quiet,
boy-shy. And the little brother... an all out brat at times but still kind
of likeable.. in a weird way. I hated how they played Justine's character.
It was very predictable bow it end. And it was an obvious play on emotions
with how they made her start to be good and caring only to be destroyed.
But
at the same time I dont mind that because it shows how people can touch
others' lives.
Theres alot of swearing in the movie. If you can get over that.. and the
beginning scene.. you should fare all right watching this. Still to post
my
opinion.. I wish there were better movies about indians out there. A movie
to show, yes the horrible circumstances, but still the beauty of the
culture
and the undying, underlying hope. And the love for the people and the
reservation. Maybe Grand Avenue in its own way shows that. Though I dont
see
it now. I do see how Mollie and Alice and Sheldon and Mollies new squeeze
with probably go on to help each other.. And thats good for them. Their
characters can really heal now. I would like to make one final statement.
For the people who pity indians and want to help... do come and try to
help.
We all can use help. But take this indian image with a grain of salt.
Theres
more to us then what is sometimes shown. But its that way with everything.
5 out of 7 people found the following comment useful :- Whatever Happened To Deeny Dakota?, 18 March 2002
Author:
David (vanpattendav@aol.com) from Orange County, CA
The promo reads "Around Every Corner in America There's a Story Waiting To
Be Told." The story here is about native Americans. One family in
particular.
Mollie moves her two teenage daughters, and her young son, to a new
neighborhood when they are expelled from their Indian Reservation after
the
death of her husband.
With no where else to go she goes to her cousin Anna, who lives on Grand
Avenue.
Mollie has a drinking problem, can't hold down a job and has demons from
her
past.
The oldest daughter, Justine (portrayed perfectly by the beautiful and
talented Deeny Dakota,) is an angry and rebellious girl. However, she has
redeeming qualities. She is vulnerable and right from the start it is
apparent she is hiding this behind her toughness, sexuality and her edge.
Her sister, Alice, is more reserved and responsible. She's the one that
looks after little brother, Sheldon.
It's about a rough neighborhood, and the different races there, Blacks and
Latinos, too. The Black gang thinks the native Americans are Latino. The
black girl gang want to cut Justine, because she was messin with one of
their men. This is the new "West Side Story."
It's also a soap opera in many ways. Past secrets etc.
This story is excellent. Superbly written, if you can get past the F-word
(but hey folks, that's the way they really talk.)
Originally this was a two part mini-series on HBO. It can be bought or
rented in a two video set.
Filmed on location in Santa Rosa, CA and Produced by Robert Redford. Yes,
the Robert Redford. It co-stars A. Martinez, most recently of "General
Hospital," and Alexis Cruz of "Touched By An Angel."
But the real star of the show is Deeny Dakota. This is her character's
story. And Miss Dakota is as fine an actress as there has ever
been.
2 out of 2 people found the following comment useful :- Great girl night movie, 11 May 2005
Author:
WSTCOASTNATIVE from TEXAS
This is such a wonderful depiction of Native life. Not all Natives grow
up on the rez, I didn't .It shows how single motherhood and life really
is. So many movies today are hard to believe, but this one is great! I
love this movie so much and are so bummed that I can't find it on DVD
or VHS. I know of at least 10 people who would buy it. Please, someone,
anyone....get this movie out for the public. So many more people could
be enjoying it just as much as me and my cousins have. This is also a
great girl night movie, not to scare any guys. But it is a tear-jerker,
so guys be prepared with some tissues and girls get the popcorn because
it is a long movie.
2 out of 2 people found the following comment useful :- i lost this movie but i want to buy the video again, 2 March 2004
Author:
(ojibwegal@excite.com) from winnipeg
this movie really touched me! because the family is all mixed up, while
the
mother tries hard to cope with life. while justine does things that are
wrong. and alice tries hard to be the responsible one. I live in the city,
but somehow i learn from the movie. because the way it is to live in the
city. you have to fit in to survive. unless you go somewhere else like to
finish school, have a family, to be responsible.
people can learn from watching the movie. it also shows to be
compassionate
to other races and your own people. but i'm really from garden hill,
manitoba, its also tough to live anywhere cause trouble is everywhere
until
you make it better in how you live.
it was too bad i lost the movie. it cost me $30.00
1 out of 1 people found the following comment useful :- gut wrenching, excellent!, 12 March 2006
Author:
ms_julie from United States
I cry every time I see it, I recorded it on VCR. The white haired
medicine woman who appears in the beginning was a good friend of mine,
she passed away shortly after the release of the movie, I briefly met
Mr Sackheim at the funeral. I wish it would be made available on DVD
here in the US, as I would like to keep it as a family treasure. Is
there any way I could find out if and when it's made available on DVD?
Perhaps HBO could show it again to spark new interest, I read the book
as well and with all due respect to Mr Sarris, the movie is far better
then the book, usually it's the other way around, the acting is first
class and the story, although a bit tough at times is gut wrenching and
eye opening to everyone interested in modern Native American life.
Julie
1 out of 1 people found the following comment useful :- great film, 10 July 2000
Author:
larrylove76 from new jersey
When i first saw this film I thought it was just another Native American
movie,but as I kept watching it brought you into their personal life and
showed just how much they still are being discriminated against. General
Americans should watch this movie and realize what a great people they are
and see how they are not defeated yet and keep struggling.If you are in the
mood for a realistic portrayal of Native Americans and not just the
"cowboy
and indian" I strongly recommend it.
Four-and-a-half stars!, 21 August 2007
Author:
zombieahoo from United States
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
Grand Avenue (1996) C-167m. ***½ D: Daniel Sackheim. A. Martinez,
Shelia Tousey, Deeny Dakota, Diana Debassige, Alexis Cruz, Tantoo
Cardinal, Irene Bedard, Jenny Gago, Cody Lightning, Simi Mehta, Norris
Young, Preston Arrow-Weed, August Schellenberg. Exceptional film about
a family of Pomo Indians who relocate to a tough urban setting and try
to etch out a living. A pointed and affecting look at community, guilt,
and a family undoing, presented through the frame of a disparate
culture. The women are all uniformly good; an impressive writing debut
by Greg Sarris, based on his short stories book, sparks this production
for HBO.
1 out of 2 people found the following comment useful :- They should bring this miniseries back again..., 7 September 2001
Author:
cousteau from Anchorage
I'm still not even sure who Irene Bedard is...is she the one who plays the
mother...or the sister? Anyway...
This film made me cry so hard in the end...and so many times. The part
where the girl talks to the 'basket lady' and gets angry..this seems a lot
more realistic than other films (especially TV films) that seem to paint
their own pictures of 'the model natives', steering clear of reality to keep
the mood comfortable. Well, all I can say is, reality is a lot more
interesting in this case.
If you have a chance to see this, do so...and bring some
tissues.
PS- The only problem I had with the plot is why the mother was still so set
on staying at Grand Avenue...maybe it's a 'metaphorical'
thing?
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3 out of 3 people found the following comment useful :-
Damn (Major Spoilers), 22 January 2004
Author: la_princessa_de_la_noche from Pine Ridge, South Dakota
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
Alright alright. Yeah it was a pretty good movie. Very sad and melodramatic.
I liked it.. but at the same time I really hated it. There are always these movies coming out about we Natives.. and they all always have the same stereotypic story lines. The drunk parent. The Stuggling Child. Usually theres a Good Person. Like look at "Smoke Signals".. Always the same. Look how they depicted Pine Ridge in the movie "Skins"!! That movie made me sick to my stomach to watch. And that movie is shown at school to children here so they may know how they are depicted to the rest of the world. Its no wonder some people look down upon us. We are shown in movies to be drunks, and rapists and even more openly, as DIRTY people . Yes there are those who are all those descriptions. But then there are those who arent. Who try to live their lives everyday to the fullest. I am 15 years old and I have lived here on rez all my life. And I am no drunk or rapist and I am certainly not dirty. But people like my family arent shown as much. It is the trouble and horror that is always shown. We are still being kept down by our image. And what hope the movies do show is tainted with loss and pain. But I agree with that image. Because that is what its like. From the ashes we rise again. But still.. I am adamantly against movies like "Skins" those are unrealistic and truly stupid. Lying to the people. Not just Native Americans..all people. That man who made was looking for praise for his supposed understanding of native pain. I'd like to give him pain.. but thats another story lol.
This movie.. about Mollie who gets kicked of the Reservation after her man dies and then moves to Grand Avenue to stay with her cousin. Her daughter: Justine has issues. She's a hoe with an attitude. And she deserves to be. But at the same time, likeable for her underlying strength and weakness'. Her sister, Alice, is your regular good girl type. Responsible,quiet, boy-shy. And the little brother... an all out brat at times but still kind of likeable.. in a weird way. I hated how they played Justine's character. It was very predictable bow it end. And it was an obvious play on emotions with how they made her start to be good and caring only to be destroyed. But at the same time I dont mind that because it shows how people can touch others' lives.
Theres alot of swearing in the movie. If you can get over that.. and the beginning scene.. you should fare all right watching this. Still to post my opinion.. I wish there were better movies about indians out there. A movie to show, yes the horrible circumstances, but still the beauty of the culture and the undying, underlying hope. And the love for the people and the reservation. Maybe Grand Avenue in its own way shows that. Though I dont see it now. I do see how Mollie and Alice and Sheldon and Mollies new squeeze with probably go on to help each other.. And thats good for them. Their characters can really heal now. I would like to make one final statement. For the people who pity indians and want to help... do come and try to help. We all can use help. But take this indian image with a grain of salt. Theres more to us then what is sometimes shown. But its that way with everything.
5 out of 7 people found the following comment useful :-
Whatever Happened To Deeny Dakota?, 18 March 2002
Author: David (vanpattendav@aol.com) from Orange County, CA
The promo reads "Around Every Corner in America There's a Story Waiting To Be Told." The story here is about native Americans. One family in particular.
Mollie moves her two teenage daughters, and her young son, to a new neighborhood when they are expelled from their Indian Reservation after the death of her husband.
With no where else to go she goes to her cousin Anna, who lives on Grand Avenue.
Mollie has a drinking problem, can't hold down a job and has demons from her past.
The oldest daughter, Justine (portrayed perfectly by the beautiful and talented Deeny Dakota,) is an angry and rebellious girl. However, she has redeeming qualities. She is vulnerable and right from the start it is apparent she is hiding this behind her toughness, sexuality and her edge.
Her sister, Alice, is more reserved and responsible. She's the one that looks after little brother, Sheldon.
It's about a rough neighborhood, and the different races there, Blacks and Latinos, too. The Black gang thinks the native Americans are Latino. The black girl gang want to cut Justine, because she was messin with one of their men. This is the new "West Side Story."
It's also a soap opera in many ways. Past secrets etc.
This story is excellent. Superbly written, if you can get past the F-word (but hey folks, that's the way they really talk.)
Originally this was a two part mini-series on HBO. It can be bought or rented in a two video set.
Filmed on location in Santa Rosa, CA and Produced by Robert Redford. Yes, the Robert Redford. It co-stars A. Martinez, most recently of "General Hospital," and Alexis Cruz of "Touched By An Angel."
But the real star of the show is Deeny Dakota. This is her character's story. And Miss Dakota is as fine an actress as there has ever been.
2 out of 2 people found the following comment useful :-

Great girl night movie, 11 May 2005
Author: WSTCOASTNATIVE from TEXAS
This is such a wonderful depiction of Native life. Not all Natives grow up on the rez, I didn't .It shows how single motherhood and life really is. So many movies today are hard to believe, but this one is great! I love this movie so much and are so bummed that I can't find it on DVD or VHS. I know of at least 10 people who would buy it. Please, someone, anyone....get this movie out for the public. So many more people could be enjoying it just as much as me and my cousins have. This is also a great girl night movie, not to scare any guys. But it is a tear-jerker, so guys be prepared with some tissues and girls get the popcorn because it is a long movie.
2 out of 2 people found the following comment useful :-
i lost this movie but i want to buy the video again, 2 March 2004
Author: (ojibwegal@excite.com) from winnipeg
this movie really touched me! because the family is all mixed up, while the mother tries hard to cope with life. while justine does things that are wrong. and alice tries hard to be the responsible one. I live in the city, but somehow i learn from the movie. because the way it is to live in the city. you have to fit in to survive. unless you go somewhere else like to finish school, have a family, to be responsible. people can learn from watching the movie. it also shows to be compassionate to other races and your own people. but i'm really from garden hill, manitoba, its also tough to live anywhere cause trouble is everywhere until you make it better in how you live. it was too bad i lost the movie. it cost me $30.00
1 out of 1 people found the following comment useful :-

gut wrenching, excellent!, 12 March 2006
Author: ms_julie from United States
I cry every time I see it, I recorded it on VCR. The white haired medicine woman who appears in the beginning was a good friend of mine, she passed away shortly after the release of the movie, I briefly met Mr Sackheim at the funeral. I wish it would be made available on DVD here in the US, as I would like to keep it as a family treasure. Is there any way I could find out if and when it's made available on DVD? Perhaps HBO could show it again to spark new interest, I read the book as well and with all due respect to Mr Sarris, the movie is far better then the book, usually it's the other way around, the acting is first class and the story, although a bit tough at times is gut wrenching and eye opening to everyone interested in modern Native American life. Julie
1 out of 1 people found the following comment useful :-
great film, 10 July 2000
Author: larrylove76 from new jersey
When i first saw this film I thought it was just another Native American movie,but as I kept watching it brought you into their personal life and showed just how much they still are being discriminated against. General Americans should watch this movie and realize what a great people they are and see how they are not defeated yet and keep struggling.If you are in the mood for a realistic portrayal of Native Americans and not just the "cowboy and indian" I strongly recommend it.
Four-and-a-half stars!, 21 August 2007

Author: zombieahoo from United States
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
Grand Avenue (1996) C-167m. ***½ D: Daniel Sackheim. A. Martinez, Shelia Tousey, Deeny Dakota, Diana Debassige, Alexis Cruz, Tantoo Cardinal, Irene Bedard, Jenny Gago, Cody Lightning, Simi Mehta, Norris Young, Preston Arrow-Weed, August Schellenberg. Exceptional film about a family of Pomo Indians who relocate to a tough urban setting and try to etch out a living. A pointed and affecting look at community, guilt, and a family undoing, presented through the frame of a disparate culture. The women are all uniformly good; an impressive writing debut by Greg Sarris, based on his short stories book, sparks this production for HBO.
1 out of 2 people found the following comment useful :-
They should bring this miniseries back again..., 7 September 2001
Author: cousteau from Anchorage
I'm still not even sure who Irene Bedard is...is she the one who plays the mother...or the sister? Anyway...
This film made me cry so hard in the end...and so many times. The part where the girl talks to the 'basket lady' and gets angry..this seems a lot more realistic than other films (especially TV films) that seem to paint their own pictures of 'the model natives', steering clear of reality to keep the mood comfortable. Well, all I can say is, reality is a lot more interesting in this case.
If you have a chance to see this, do so...and bring some tissues.
PS- The only problem I had with the plot is why the mother was still so set on staying at Grand Avenue...maybe it's a 'metaphorical' thing?
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