I watched this film with a particular perspective on the subject and I have to admit I very much liked the treatment of the story. One viewer comments that this film is supposed to be a true story. I can say that it absolutely is true. The young man in the story is my first cousin and his family is my family. The setting was changed, but the events were actually very faithfully represented. I will commend Ms. Lucci for not playing the character as a parody, but playing the role with as much depth as she did. It might otherwise have cheapened the struggles that family had faced prior to, during, and after those terrible events.
14 Reviews
Not bad, for a Lifetime movie...
MarieGabrielle18 October 2006
The main story revolves around Patrick Van Horn ("Swingers") (although
his career never took off like Jon Favreau). He is very sympathetic as
the young man who gets in over his head and has an affair with the
local society matron, Susan Lucci. Lucci looks lovely as ever, and it
is hard to believe she hasn't really gotten the chance at any similar
roles in legitimate film, at least in the 80's and 90's, when she was
at the height of her career.
Even if you are not a major soap fan, you may enjoy this movie. Susan Lucci as the bored wife of Barry Bostwick (he has played many of these roles) becomes involved with Van Horn, and then unceremoniously dumps him at the end of the summer. She gets a restraining order against him, and he begins to become obsessive.
This is another based on truth Lifetime feature. Truth really is stranger than fiction. 7/10
Even if you are not a major soap fan, you may enjoy this movie. Susan Lucci as the bored wife of Barry Bostwick (he has played many of these roles) becomes involved with Van Horn, and then unceremoniously dumps him at the end of the summer. She gets a restraining order against him, and he begins to become obsessive.
This is another based on truth Lifetime feature. Truth really is stranger than fiction. 7/10
End still shocks me
marbleann10 April 2005
Warning: Spoilers
I always get this movie mixed up with the Susan Lucci movie where she is the stalker and won't leave this young married carpenter alone who she seduced. So the end always shocks me. Here again she plays a Country Club socialite who seems to spend each summer with one of the boys on staff. One summer she picks her daughters swim coach, a good looking college student. On first glance you would think the kid was gay al la Tea and Sympathy. He seems not to be interested in girls. But when Mrs Lucci invites him for a barbecue he accepts because she mentions her little girl would love for him to come over. Then she invites him over to get a present her little girl picked out for him. It turns out to a shirt which of course he has put on. She starts her seduction but he tells he has not done that a lot. This was a mistake because it turns out that was his first time. In movies that is a indication something is off. Then he mentions that he once tried to commit suicide because his father beat him. Time for her to get away from him. She doesn't she keeps on with the affair until the summer is over. Her hubby BTW has a job in which he travels. Well this kid can't take no for a answer. This movie is interesting because it is clear the Lucci character is a philanderer. Her girlfriend at the country club gives us hints about this. Plus one of the other boys tells of her having a affair with him. This is not a new one time I am mad at my husband thing. She does it as sport. The guy is clearly off balanced. His father has abandoned the family and instead of him being part of the club he is working there. Lucci's husband is played by Barry Bostwick. He just seems like absent husband but other then that he is OK. But when he gets the lover fired from the club all heck breaks loose. Bad mistake. I was under the impression that the guy was leaving La Lucci alone until that happened. He prints out leaflets with love letters on them. Something I could see a scorned lover doing BUT he then goes to the CC and confronts the hubby about the job. He is removed by security. Now I am not going to say what happens but the pool boys will have to look else where. The guy who played Matt reminded me of a young Troy Donahue, so the part worked. Lucci who I still think can't act was fine The movie is great for a lazy weekend and for people who are thinking about fooling around.
La Lucci at her best
blanche-26 September 2004
This is Susan Lucci at her very best - a rich, bored wife of a philanderer who amuses herself by seducing the young men at the country club, one boy toy per summer. The problem is, this guy takes her seriously. This is one of those fun TV movies that borders on high camp, the kind of film made often in the '80s and done too rarely today! But Lucci lends herself to this kind of thing so when you see her name on a TV movie, you can bet it's going to be watchable and entertaining. In this film, the object of her affections is a sympathetic character. I found myself taking his side during certain points in the film. The ending is over the top, but I understand this is a true story. Lesson: you're dealing with out of control hormones, anything can happen.
Puma Concolor
JamesHitchcock24 March 2012
Susan Lucci seems to specialise in playing cougars. (To avoid confusion I should perhaps point out that I am using that word in its metaphorical sense, not its literal zoological one. La Lucci has a rather limited range as an actress, and impersonating an individual of the species Puma concolor probably does not lie within it). In the last of her films which I saw, "Seduced and Betrayed", she plays a wealthy older woman who seduces a handsome, much younger man. And in "Between Love and Hate", made two years earlier, she also plays a wealthy older woman who seduces a handsome, much younger man.
The main difference between the two films is that in "Seduced and Betrayed" it is the young lover, a married man, who wants to break off the affair, whereupon Lucci's character Victoria turns nasty. In "Between Love and Hate" it is Lucci's character Vivian, a married woman, who breaks off the affair under pressure from her husband, even though he himself has frequently honoured his marriage vows more in the breach than the observance. (The husband is played by Barry Bostwick, like Lucci an actor who seems to turn up in every TV movie). Not that Vivian does not have previous form herself. She makes a habit of seducing, then dumping, a new toyboy every summer. The problem is that on this occasion the young man, a college student named Matt, refuses to take no for an answer.
In "Seduced and Betrayed" I felt that the moral boundaries were too sharply drawn. Victoria was so obviously selfish and manipulative, using her wealth, beauty and influence to snare her victim Dan, that it was impossible to feel any sympathy for her. In "Between Love and Hate" things are, or should be, more nuanced. Although Vivian is just as selfish and manipulative as Victoria, it is she who becomes the victim and Matt the perpetrator of violence. It should, therefore, be possible to sympathise to some extent with both parties, with Matt as a young man driven to extremes by Vivian's thoughtless emotional cruelty and with Vivian as a woman who suffers far more than she deserves as a result of that thoughtlessness.
The trouble is that a storyline like that demands higher standards of acting than those normally found in run-of-the-mill TV movies. Lucci, admittedly, is better here than she was in "Seduced and Betrayed", largely because in that film she had to convey violent emotions which seemed beyond her range. In "Between Love and Hate", Vivian is an entirely shallow character to whom strong emotions of any sort, whether of love or hatred, appear entirely foreign, so Lucci copes much better with the task of playing her. Patrick van Horne as Matt, however, seems so wet and spineless that it is hard to imagine him suddenly transformed by raging passion into a violently unstable individual. Although van Horne was 24 when the film was made, his character is only supposed to be 19 and he comes across as younger still, more like a wet-behind-the-ears schoolboy than a college undergrad. (David Charvet, who played Dan in "Seduced and Betrayed", was 23 at the time but looked rather older).
Like many TV movies, this one is a fictionalised dramatisation of a real-life case. Given the emotions and human drama involved, it should have been possible to have turned the story into an engrossing film. Unfortunately, as with many TV movies, this one appears to have been made by film-makers and actors who imagine that the only skill needed to turn real-life events into a great film is the ability to alter the names, dates and places in an old newspaper cutting. 4/10
The main difference between the two films is that in "Seduced and Betrayed" it is the young lover, a married man, who wants to break off the affair, whereupon Lucci's character Victoria turns nasty. In "Between Love and Hate" it is Lucci's character Vivian, a married woman, who breaks off the affair under pressure from her husband, even though he himself has frequently honoured his marriage vows more in the breach than the observance. (The husband is played by Barry Bostwick, like Lucci an actor who seems to turn up in every TV movie). Not that Vivian does not have previous form herself. She makes a habit of seducing, then dumping, a new toyboy every summer. The problem is that on this occasion the young man, a college student named Matt, refuses to take no for an answer.
In "Seduced and Betrayed" I felt that the moral boundaries were too sharply drawn. Victoria was so obviously selfish and manipulative, using her wealth, beauty and influence to snare her victim Dan, that it was impossible to feel any sympathy for her. In "Between Love and Hate" things are, or should be, more nuanced. Although Vivian is just as selfish and manipulative as Victoria, it is she who becomes the victim and Matt the perpetrator of violence. It should, therefore, be possible to sympathise to some extent with both parties, with Matt as a young man driven to extremes by Vivian's thoughtless emotional cruelty and with Vivian as a woman who suffers far more than she deserves as a result of that thoughtlessness.
The trouble is that a storyline like that demands higher standards of acting than those normally found in run-of-the-mill TV movies. Lucci, admittedly, is better here than she was in "Seduced and Betrayed", largely because in that film she had to convey violent emotions which seemed beyond her range. In "Between Love and Hate", Vivian is an entirely shallow character to whom strong emotions of any sort, whether of love or hatred, appear entirely foreign, so Lucci copes much better with the task of playing her. Patrick van Horne as Matt, however, seems so wet and spineless that it is hard to imagine him suddenly transformed by raging passion into a violently unstable individual. Although van Horne was 24 when the film was made, his character is only supposed to be 19 and he comes across as younger still, more like a wet-behind-the-ears schoolboy than a college undergrad. (David Charvet, who played Dan in "Seduced and Betrayed", was 23 at the time but looked rather older).
Like many TV movies, this one is a fictionalised dramatisation of a real-life case. Given the emotions and human drama involved, it should have been possible to have turned the story into an engrossing film. Unfortunately, as with many TV movies, this one appears to have been made by film-makers and actors who imagine that the only skill needed to turn real-life events into a great film is the ability to alter the names, dates and places in an old newspaper cutting. 4/10
Not bad, for a Lifetime movie...
MarieGabrielle18 October 2006
The main story revolves around Patrick Van Horn ("Swingers") (although his career never took off like Jon Favreau). He is very sympathetic as the young man who gets in over his head and has an affair with the local society matron, Susan Lucci. Lucci looks lovely as ever, and it is hard to believe she hasn't really gotten the chance at any similar roles in legitimate film, at least in the 80's and 90's, when she was at the height of her career.
Even if you are not a major soap fan, you may enjoy this movie. Susan Lucci as the bored wife of Barry Bostwick (he has played many of these roles) becomes involved with Van Horn, and then unceremoniously dumps him at the end of the summer. She gets a restraining order against him, and he begins to become obsessive.
This is another based on truth Lifetime feature. Truth really is stranger than fiction. 7/10
Even if you are not a major soap fan, you may enjoy this movie. Susan Lucci as the bored wife of Barry Bostwick (he has played many of these roles) becomes involved with Van Horn, and then unceremoniously dumps him at the end of the summer. She gets a restraining order against him, and he begins to become obsessive.
This is another based on truth Lifetime feature. Truth really is stranger than fiction. 7/10
between love and hate
davidclarke117 May 2006
Warning: Spoilers
It is a strange movie that begun with an romantic affair with a married woman that resulted in senseless murder by the man after been cut off by her husband i saw that movie on lifetime television about 2 years ago before that i saw that movie on Barbados CBC TV channel 8 this is to say that relationship can go bad this is a very important movie to watch for everyone.I think that movie should be replayed from time to time .Is that movie available on video or DVD?Please let me know how to buy it that movie is fun too it goes from romantic to sour then to dangerous
bye for now David Clarke from Trinidad and Tobago
bye for now David Clarke from Trinidad and Tobago
Do not play with people's emotions!
bronzesrv2 November 2018
I remember watching this movie in my twenties, it was awesome it really makes you think. Usually roles like this, it'll be a man playing with the minds of young girls. It was really different to see the roles reversed, to have a woman taking advantage of this young man. When one man falls seriously in love with her, she realizes she played with the wrong guy! And things are really get ugly!
between love and hate where can i buy it on DVD?
suyung27 July 2009
please please please. all i want to know is where can i buy this film. i saw it on TV about 13 yrs ago. recorded it on to a video tape but changed to a DVD player. OK I've managed to get this far and now have got to manage ten lines to edit my views. its a great age gap love lust film and i really do want to buy this. have spent no end of time searching everywhere but can i actually find it for sale ..no nowhere. whats the good of telling us who stared in this film,the year it came out and the producers name but no information as to where it can be bought.mmmm think of more to say 9th line now! believe me I've looked on ebay.amazon,everywhere,all that keeps coming up is the fine line between love and hate.. oh good managed the 10th line. hope someone will reply to me now!
Susan Lucci at her campy best...
josephbrando8 April 2001
If you enjoy seeing Susan Lucci camp it up weekdays on "All My Children" then you simply must catch this film on one of its fairly regular airings on the Lifetime Channel. Watch as over-the-top drama-queen Lucci delivers such wonderfully delicious lines as "...you're tearing yourself apart over something that can never be..." to an obsessed teenager she's recently had an affair with. Scandalous!!!
Lucci's familiar role
snowdog07112 April 2001
This is a role Susan Lucci has patented. She comes off as being very seductive, but turns out to be a tease to a young guy that thinks he's in love. It turns out, that she's bitten off more than she can chew. (No pun intended!) ** out of ****
"Susan Lucci" Is Her Usual Fabulosi'
carmenjulianna14 February 2021
What more can you say with regards to Susan Lucci...
Isn't She the epitomy of seduction, class and loveliness...
Whatever role Susan plays or is a cast member; she makes shine. All her movies are watchable with no worries with regards to profanity or smut!
Oh, and the other reviewers that slate her performances, could you do better?
Keep the lights burning Susan!!
🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
great cheesy thriller
JBoze31316 September 2002
Warning: Spoilers
**spoilers below!!**
This is a great little movie in that cheesy kinda way that only made for tv movies can be. Lucci plays Vivian Conrad, the wife of a rich business man who spends her summers sleeping with young guys who work at the country club she is a member of. Matt, who is played by a really good actor, some guy I have seen a few times, but not enough- I think he's great, is the most recent affair. They meet, Matt falls in love, they have sex (Matt's first time) and she leads him into thinking she is in love as well. She has the affair behind her husband's back (of course) but he eventually finds a love letter and makes her end it. Matt is really in love (or so he thinks), and he doesn't take the rejection well. He thinks Vivian is in love with him but is forced into ending it all by her husband. She refuses to see him, and tells him it is over for good, so he starts with his revenge...he copies one of the love letters she wrote and posts it all over her neighborhood and the country club. The husband makes sure Matt is fired from the country club, and they file a restraining order...Matt finds out his best friend had an affair with Vivian the summer before, and realizes she was indeed using him...he still loves her, yet hates her at the same time. He ends up going to the country club with a gun and killing her. Matt nearly kills himself as well, but is interrupted by his mother.
Good story, and great performances in what seems to be a very low budget film...clearly make for tv. TV movies like this are hard to find, but I really liked this one.
This is a great little movie in that cheesy kinda way that only made for tv movies can be. Lucci plays Vivian Conrad, the wife of a rich business man who spends her summers sleeping with young guys who work at the country club she is a member of. Matt, who is played by a really good actor, some guy I have seen a few times, but not enough- I think he's great, is the most recent affair. They meet, Matt falls in love, they have sex (Matt's first time) and she leads him into thinking she is in love as well. She has the affair behind her husband's back (of course) but he eventually finds a love letter and makes her end it. Matt is really in love (or so he thinks), and he doesn't take the rejection well. He thinks Vivian is in love with him but is forced into ending it all by her husband. She refuses to see him, and tells him it is over for good, so he starts with his revenge...he copies one of the love letters she wrote and posts it all over her neighborhood and the country club. The husband makes sure Matt is fired from the country club, and they file a restraining order...Matt finds out his best friend had an affair with Vivian the summer before, and realizes she was indeed using him...he still loves her, yet hates her at the same time. He ends up going to the country club with a gun and killing her. Matt nearly kills himself as well, but is interrupted by his mother.
Good story, and great performances in what seems to be a very low budget film...clearly make for tv. TV movies like this are hard to find, but I really liked this one.
Romantic movies
agbakpenree16 October 2022
Warning: Spoilers
The husband does not have time for the lady that of sex always because during they're discussion about less attention to what she might have wanted at that time but the man always have reason to smile about the all issue and tell her why or things are going well because their financial services are been taking care of by the man why little know to him that sex always needed attention too, that was why she bend on the young man for a better services only for to get to that something was going on with his wife and the young man and he decided to get them red handed and it became problem for the f.
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