39 out of 41 people found the following comment useful :- Brilliant mixture of social criticism and fantasy rebellion. One of the most powerful movies of the 1960s., 29 January 2003
Author:
Infofreak from Perth, Australia
'If...' is a fascinating and powerful film set in an oppressive and archaic
public (that's private to us non-Brits) school. It is one of the most
original and innovative of all British movies of the 60s, a decade which
began in some ways with 'Peeping Tom' and ended with 'Performance', two much
maligned movies which in hindsight are astonishing achievements. 'If..' is
equally as striking (and disturbing) as those two criminally underrated
movies, but in contrast actually achieved quite a level of popularity on its
original release. Even so I don't believe the movie gets the attention it
deserves. Hopefully it will be rediscovered by a new generation of movie
lovers as it is still very relevant and powerful even now, thirty five years
later. Malcolm McDowell (his film debut) stars as the ring-leader of a small
group of dissatisfied students who don't fit in with their ultra-conformist
contemporaries. His performance is first rate, and in several scenes you
can almost see Alex, his droog to be ('A Clockwork Orange'). The movie mixes
documentary like realism with fantasy sequences involving "The Girl"
(Christine Noonan), and eventually violent rebellion. A movie very much of
its time it still is very watchable today and has lost little of its power
and ability to surprise. Lindsay Anderson, arguably Britain's most
underrated director, continued to expand upon McDowell's Mick Travis
character in two subsequent movies, but 'If..' has a very different feel
from those "sequels", if they can truly be termed that, and can be watched
as a stand alone movie. I was impressed with this movie when I first saw it
on black and white TV as a young lad, and I was still impressed when I
watched it again the other week. And I will guarantee it will not be my last
viewing of this brilliant film! A must see for anyone with any interest
whatsoever in 1960s pop culture or film.
24 out of 25 people found the following comment useful :- Rejection and acceptance: Mick and Jute., 22 September 2002
Author:
mice_elf from Liverpool, England
I watched this movie, for the umpteenth time, when it was shown on T.V. last
night and was happy to see that it hasn't lost any of it's impact or
relevance. Like so many other British films of the same time "if...." is a
classic. The storyline, direction, location and acting are all stunning and
as an allegory the film has as much to say today as it did when it was first
released, onto an unsuspecting public, in the late 1960's. Much has been
said by other reviewers about Lindsay Anderson, Malcolm McDowell and the
film as a social satire, so there seems little point in going along those,
well trodden, paths. I guess one aspect of the film, which always struck me
as pivotal, but which hasn't been mentioned, is the inverse negative
correlation between the story of Mick (Malcolm McDowell) and that of Jute
(Sean Bury). While Mick starts out as a mild non-conformist who becomes
increasingly disaffected with society, as represented by the school, Jute,
who is initially an outsider, a new boy who doesn't know the rules, is
gradually accepted and becomes an active member of that very same society.
Mick's initial revolt is that of returning to school still sporting a
moustache. But although he is flouting the rules by virtue of not being
clean shaven, it is done on a purely personal level and he takes great pains
to hide his facial hair from those in authority. Later his actions become,
by stages, increasingly confrontational and open. Jute on the other hand is
first shown as a small, almost lost, boy with large, frightened, puppy-dog
eyes who doesn't even know that prefects are not addressed as "Sir", let
alone the myriad of other complex rules that make up the society into which
he has been thrust. Gradually we see his self assurance blossoming as he is
accepted firstly by the other "scum" and later by the powers that be. The
small socially isolated boy of the first scene is later seen playing an
active role in a rugby match, sharing an impromptu meal with the other scum,
confidently carrying a trophy in College Hall and finally taking an active
part (as an altar boy) in the very celebration of traditional values that
Mick has, by then, utterly rejected. A thought provoking film, which like
that other celebrated allegory from the same era, "Lord of the Flies"
(1963), has many levels and can be as deep as you wish it to be. Utterly
Brilliant. Oh yeah and my favourite quote was from Mick when asked why he
was sporting a moustache, his answer, "To hide my sins".
25 out of 28 people found the following comment useful :- Just utterly,utterly marvellous, 15 May 2004
Author:
ng271 from Cambridge (not by choice)
My word!
"If.." has always been a firm favourite of mine, particularly as I have
been
in much the same situation (minus B+W/Colour changes, and gun battles,
naturally), and indeed still consider myself a hair rebel. It captures
perfectly the horrors of public shool-The fawning, smarmy head-master, the
rigors of cadet training and founder's day,
it's all drawn from horrible reality.
Saw a late night showing yesterday, and on the cinema screen the fabulous
direction and power of the photography- so still and unobtrusive, yet so
iconic-becomes apparent. That final looped shot of Mick firing the brenn
Gun
is just stunning! I left the cinema feeling so goddamn
moved!
At times the sheer 60s-ness, and random dialogue ("I like Johnny") can
seem
to undermine the viewing experience, but the spirit of bold rebellion
which
saturates this marvelous film wins you over. A favourite joke which I had
never spotted before, is near the start, where the whips tick off a list
that goes something like "Measles, tape worm, conformation
class"..marvellous..
GO SEE!!
27 out of 33 people found the following comment useful :- One for your sons, 19 April 1999
Author:
StevieGB from London, England
To get the most out of this film you have to be English, male and a
teenager; in 1979 when I first saw it I was all three. In the years that
followed I would catch it wherever I could, be it on television, in the
college bar or in some local, flea-ridden rep cinema. Now, of course, I own
the video. Every few months I dig it out and watch it, and more than any
other film or book it reminds me what it was like to be young and rebellious
and have my whole life ahead of me.
This was to England what The Wild One or Rebel Without A Cause was to
America. Show it to your teenage sons; they'll remember it for the rest of
their lives, and one day they might even thank you for it.
To dispel an old myth, while I'm here. Some scenes in the film are in black
and white while most of the film is in color. The reason for this has
nothing to do with art; they were short of money, and black and white was
cheaper in those days.
Enjoy.
15 out of 18 people found the following comment useful :- A stunning work from a consummate master, 18 October 2002
Author:
smiths-4 from United Kingdom
I first saw this movie when i was 15 and it shook up my world. I was
aware
of Malcolm McDowell having previously seen him as Alex delarge in
Clockwork
Orange. This film is a perfect surreal study of teenage rebellion and
should
be seen by everyone who is able. The direction is brilliant the
supporting
cast shine (Arthur Lowe etc)and the film as a whole is made up of
memorable
images that you'll take to the grave. Lindsay Anderson is one of the most
important director geniuses of an era and i was very sad to hear of his
demise. The memory of him lives on through this film and its two "Mick
Travis" sequels!!
14 out of 18 people found the following comment useful :- If... not so far fetched, 28 March 2005
Author:
aussiedad from Australia
I first watched "If " about thirty years ago on a black and white TV.
I'm not sure whether the sensors had been active or my memory has
faded. Probably the first option although the second option is also
valid as many movies can and have been watched in the space of thirty
years. The film struck me at first as having a strong resemblance to
the school that I attended ie. A Certain College which was an ultra
conservative military type school run in the old English style where
there was no room for individuality. Having attended there in the same
time-frame as "If ", both Malcolm's and my headmaster's comments and
policies were of a not so convincing attempt to be cool and trendy. The
hair cut rules, uniform rules, and the underlying fear of homosexuality
were all present. The pecking order where the seniors or "whips" could
have a free run with any lad who they fancied or abhorred by piling
pleasures or punishments on them was something I also lived through. If
fact the film "If.." was not all that far fetched. Upon seeing the film
after a thirty year lapse and then being asked to write a report for my
daughter who is at the age that I was when I left the establishment I
mentioned was certainly a treat. After seeing the film again, I believe
the sensors did have a field day in 1975 as they did in many films of
that era. Most of the gun-play in the final scenes was cut out as were
Malcolm's dalliances with the young lady. Some of the scenes depicting
homosexual innuendo were also missing although, as I mentioned earlier,
my memory could have something to do with that. The switching from
colour to black and white was something that went unnoticed the first
time I saw the movie. Upon discussion with my daughter I was relieved
to find it was a financial shortage rather than some sort of intense
flashback that I missed or didn't understand. I was thrilled at the
opportunity to see the movie again. It was everything I remember it as
being and more. The cast was great and the plot was realistic until the
end when all hell broke loose. I'm sure I will enjoy it again next
time.
14 out of 18 people found the following comment useful :- Absurdities of public school life run rife, 5 August 2002
Author:
Ewan O'Doherty from Dublin, Ireland
I first saw 'If...' in April 2001, when shown by RTE (Irish television).
Set
in a fairly typical British public school during the 'Swinging Sixties',
the
repressive atmosphere of the school creates tension and resentment,
particularly among the seniors.
Three of the seniors, Michael Travis (played by Malcolm McDowell) and his
two study room-mates begin to defy the authority of the 'whips', an elitist
group of four sixth-formers headed by Rowntree (Robert Swann), the head of
college house. Power-games and petty bullying by the whips is the order of
the day, meanwhile Travis and his friends leave college buildings and go
into town without permission from the whips, and they get drunk in the
study. Eventually, their rebellious behaviour is no longer tolerated and
they are brutally caned by Rowntree - Travis' roommates get four strokes
each, but Travis, saved until last by the sadistic Rowntree, gets ten. The
entire school has been sent either to the 'Sweat-Room' (juniors) or their
studies (seniors) so that they can hear the noise of the canings, in the
expectation that any displays of rebellious activity,on the part of any
other students,will be similarly dealt with.
The canings prompt Travis to declare war on society, and the three
initially
disrupt Founder's Day ceremonies with smoke bombs in the assembly hall. The
congregation rush outside to be met with mortar bombs and automatic gunfire
from the rooftops around the quadrangle. It is to be pointed out that these
scenes are fantasy, a product of Travis' fertile imagination. Filmed on
location, partly at Cheltenham College, Gloucestershire, England - where
the
director of 'If...', Linsday Anderson, was himself a student- the authentic
setting instils a very real feeling of a repressive public school in the
viewer's mind, as does the dialogue and portrayal of the hierarchical
structure of British society, represented by the school.
While 'If...' was a significant product of its time, it still nonetheless
has the power to shock the viewer, particularly if they are survivors of
the
public school system. While violent and amusing at the same time, both of
these aspects being very well balanced, it is a very enjoyable movie.
Highly
recommended.
15 out of 23 people found the following comment useful :- Anti-establishment masterpiece, 28 September 1999
Author:
Shawn Taber (filmbuffshawn@netscape.net) from Rock Forest, Quebec
This is one of the greatest films ever made, period! I've seen it at least
10 times, and it still manages to captivate me. The theme of trying to
break
away from the establishment is universal. This is also the pinnacle of the
British "angry young man" films. This surrealist wake up call is not to be
missed.
9 out of 12 people found the following comment useful :- Grab a gun and shoot the establishment - If...., 14 February 2005
Author:
Simon Rickards from United Kingdom
When If.. was re-released at the end of the 1990s, it came with the
slogan: 'An Anarchist's Punk Dream!' This certainly summarises the
film's main ethos, in which revolution and the dream of blowing up the
old school master is a dream of every anti-social English school boy.
MacDowel is superb in this film, and he apparently landed the gig for A
Clockwork Orange through Kubrick watching this film several times. The
direction is also brilliant by Lyndsey Anderson, who unfortunately
never amounted to much after this. If you're interested in the changing
attitudes of English society during the 1960's then watch if..., as
there's no better illustration. One of the all time British classics,
with a bizarre sequel called 'Oh Lucky Man'.
12 out of 18 people found the following comment useful :- As if the Speed of the Nail would matter..., 1 August 2004
Author:
youngmurray from Brooklyn, New York
Lindsay Anderson's 1968 film If... is a beautiful film with a simple
message, yet the director's touch and the performances take it to
entirely different level.
If... takes place in all boys boarding school and stars Malcolm
McDowell as
"Mick" (McDowell in his first screen role). Mick and his two friends
feel
somewhat distant from their peers, school, and society. Their general
attitude towards such things as sex, war, and authority could be call
revolutionary. With surrealistic touches such as unexplained
occurrences and changing between
color and black and white. Lindsay Anderson paints a vivid picture of
"teenage alienation" before there was a term for such a thing. McDowell
would later reprise his role of "Mick" in two other Anderson pictures
O' Lucky Man and Britannia Hospital. A must see for fans of McDowell.
Just a great film with a message that sparks positive, pro-active
thinking. An important film that makes you remember to question
authority instead complying to it rules. Sadly If... is not available
on DVD at this time.
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39 out of 41 people found the following comment useful :-
Brilliant mixture of social criticism and fantasy rebellion. One of the most powerful movies of the 1960s., 29 January 2003
Author: Infofreak from Perth, Australia
'If...' is a fascinating and powerful film set in an oppressive and archaic public (that's private to us non-Brits) school. It is one of the most original and innovative of all British movies of the 60s, a decade which began in some ways with 'Peeping Tom' and ended with 'Performance', two much maligned movies which in hindsight are astonishing achievements. 'If..' is equally as striking (and disturbing) as those two criminally underrated movies, but in contrast actually achieved quite a level of popularity on its original release. Even so I don't believe the movie gets the attention it deserves. Hopefully it will be rediscovered by a new generation of movie lovers as it is still very relevant and powerful even now, thirty five years later. Malcolm McDowell (his film debut) stars as the ring-leader of a small group of dissatisfied students who don't fit in with their ultra-conformist contemporaries. His performance is first rate, and in several scenes you can almost see Alex, his droog to be ('A Clockwork Orange'). The movie mixes documentary like realism with fantasy sequences involving "The Girl" (Christine Noonan), and eventually violent rebellion. A movie very much of its time it still is very watchable today and has lost little of its power and ability to surprise. Lindsay Anderson, arguably Britain's most underrated director, continued to expand upon McDowell's Mick Travis character in two subsequent movies, but 'If..' has a very different feel from those "sequels", if they can truly be termed that, and can be watched as a stand alone movie. I was impressed with this movie when I first saw it on black and white TV as a young lad, and I was still impressed when I watched it again the other week. And I will guarantee it will not be my last viewing of this brilliant film! A must see for anyone with any interest whatsoever in 1960s pop culture or film.
24 out of 25 people found the following comment useful :-

Rejection and acceptance: Mick and Jute., 22 September 2002
Author: mice_elf from Liverpool, England
I watched this movie, for the umpteenth time, when it was shown on T.V. last night and was happy to see that it hasn't lost any of it's impact or relevance. Like so many other British films of the same time "if...." is a classic. The storyline, direction, location and acting are all stunning and as an allegory the film has as much to say today as it did when it was first released, onto an unsuspecting public, in the late 1960's. Much has been said by other reviewers about Lindsay Anderson, Malcolm McDowell and the film as a social satire, so there seems little point in going along those, well trodden, paths. I guess one aspect of the film, which always struck me as pivotal, but which hasn't been mentioned, is the inverse negative correlation between the story of Mick (Malcolm McDowell) and that of Jute (Sean Bury). While Mick starts out as a mild non-conformist who becomes increasingly disaffected with society, as represented by the school, Jute, who is initially an outsider, a new boy who doesn't know the rules, is gradually accepted and becomes an active member of that very same society. Mick's initial revolt is that of returning to school still sporting a moustache. But although he is flouting the rules by virtue of not being clean shaven, it is done on a purely personal level and he takes great pains to hide his facial hair from those in authority. Later his actions become, by stages, increasingly confrontational and open. Jute on the other hand is first shown as a small, almost lost, boy with large, frightened, puppy-dog eyes who doesn't even know that prefects are not addressed as "Sir", let alone the myriad of other complex rules that make up the society into which he has been thrust. Gradually we see his self assurance blossoming as he is accepted firstly by the other "scum" and later by the powers that be. The small socially isolated boy of the first scene is later seen playing an active role in a rugby match, sharing an impromptu meal with the other scum, confidently carrying a trophy in College Hall and finally taking an active part (as an altar boy) in the very celebration of traditional values that Mick has, by then, utterly rejected. A thought provoking film, which like that other celebrated allegory from the same era, "Lord of the Flies" (1963), has many levels and can be as deep as you wish it to be. Utterly Brilliant. Oh yeah and my favourite quote was from Mick when asked why he was sporting a moustache, his answer, "To hide my sins".
25 out of 28 people found the following comment useful :-
Just utterly,utterly marvellous, 15 May 2004
Author: ng271 from Cambridge (not by choice)
My word!
"If.." has always been a firm favourite of mine, particularly as I have been in much the same situation (minus B+W/Colour changes, and gun battles, naturally), and indeed still consider myself a hair rebel. It captures perfectly the horrors of public shool-The fawning, smarmy head-master, the rigors of cadet training and founder's day, it's all drawn from horrible reality.
Saw a late night showing yesterday, and on the cinema screen the fabulous direction and power of the photography- so still and unobtrusive, yet so iconic-becomes apparent. That final looped shot of Mick firing the brenn Gun is just stunning! I left the cinema feeling so goddamn moved!
At times the sheer 60s-ness, and random dialogue ("I like Johnny") can seem to undermine the viewing experience, but the spirit of bold rebellion which saturates this marvelous film wins you over. A favourite joke which I had never spotted before, is near the start, where the whips tick off a list that goes something like "Measles, tape worm, conformation class"..marvellous..
GO SEE!!
27 out of 33 people found the following comment useful :-

One for your sons, 19 April 1999
Author: StevieGB from London, England
To get the most out of this film you have to be English, male and a teenager; in 1979 when I first saw it I was all three. In the years that followed I would catch it wherever I could, be it on television, in the college bar or in some local, flea-ridden rep cinema. Now, of course, I own the video. Every few months I dig it out and watch it, and more than any other film or book it reminds me what it was like to be young and rebellious and have my whole life ahead of me.
This was to England what The Wild One or Rebel Without A Cause was to America. Show it to your teenage sons; they'll remember it for the rest of their lives, and one day they might even thank you for it.
To dispel an old myth, while I'm here. Some scenes in the film are in black and white while most of the film is in color. The reason for this has nothing to do with art; they were short of money, and black and white was cheaper in those days.
Enjoy.
15 out of 18 people found the following comment useful :-

A stunning work from a consummate master, 18 October 2002
Author: smiths-4 from United Kingdom
I first saw this movie when i was 15 and it shook up my world. I was aware of Malcolm McDowell having previously seen him as Alex delarge in Clockwork Orange. This film is a perfect surreal study of teenage rebellion and should be seen by everyone who is able. The direction is brilliant the supporting cast shine (Arthur Lowe etc)and the film as a whole is made up of memorable images that you'll take to the grave. Lindsay Anderson is one of the most important director geniuses of an era and i was very sad to hear of his demise. The memory of him lives on through this film and its two "Mick Travis" sequels!!
14 out of 18 people found the following comment useful :-

If... not so far fetched, 28 March 2005
Author: aussiedad from Australia
I first watched "If " about thirty years ago on a black and white TV. I'm not sure whether the sensors had been active or my memory has faded. Probably the first option although the second option is also valid as many movies can and have been watched in the space of thirty years. The film struck me at first as having a strong resemblance to the school that I attended ie. A Certain College which was an ultra conservative military type school run in the old English style where there was no room for individuality. Having attended there in the same time-frame as "If ", both Malcolm's and my headmaster's comments and policies were of a not so convincing attempt to be cool and trendy. The hair cut rules, uniform rules, and the underlying fear of homosexuality were all present. The pecking order where the seniors or "whips" could have a free run with any lad who they fancied or abhorred by piling pleasures or punishments on them was something I also lived through. If fact the film "If.." was not all that far fetched. Upon seeing the film after a thirty year lapse and then being asked to write a report for my daughter who is at the age that I was when I left the establishment I mentioned was certainly a treat. After seeing the film again, I believe the sensors did have a field day in 1975 as they did in many films of that era. Most of the gun-play in the final scenes was cut out as were Malcolm's dalliances with the young lady. Some of the scenes depicting homosexual innuendo were also missing although, as I mentioned earlier, my memory could have something to do with that. The switching from colour to black and white was something that went unnoticed the first time I saw the movie. Upon discussion with my daughter I was relieved to find it was a financial shortage rather than some sort of intense flashback that I missed or didn't understand. I was thrilled at the opportunity to see the movie again. It was everything I remember it as being and more. The cast was great and the plot was realistic until the end when all hell broke loose. I'm sure I will enjoy it again next time.
14 out of 18 people found the following comment useful :-
Absurdities of public school life run rife, 5 August 2002
Author: Ewan O'Doherty from Dublin, Ireland
I first saw 'If...' in April 2001, when shown by RTE (Irish television). Set in a fairly typical British public school during the 'Swinging Sixties', the repressive atmosphere of the school creates tension and resentment, particularly among the seniors. Three of the seniors, Michael Travis (played by Malcolm McDowell) and his two study room-mates begin to defy the authority of the 'whips', an elitist group of four sixth-formers headed by Rowntree (Robert Swann), the head of college house. Power-games and petty bullying by the whips is the order of the day, meanwhile Travis and his friends leave college buildings and go into town without permission from the whips, and they get drunk in the study. Eventually, their rebellious behaviour is no longer tolerated and they are brutally caned by Rowntree - Travis' roommates get four strokes each, but Travis, saved until last by the sadistic Rowntree, gets ten. The entire school has been sent either to the 'Sweat-Room' (juniors) or their studies (seniors) so that they can hear the noise of the canings, in the expectation that any displays of rebellious activity,on the part of any other students,will be similarly dealt with.
The canings prompt Travis to declare war on society, and the three initially disrupt Founder's Day ceremonies with smoke bombs in the assembly hall. The congregation rush outside to be met with mortar bombs and automatic gunfire from the rooftops around the quadrangle. It is to be pointed out that these scenes are fantasy, a product of Travis' fertile imagination. Filmed on location, partly at Cheltenham College, Gloucestershire, England - where the director of 'If...', Linsday Anderson, was himself a student- the authentic setting instils a very real feeling of a repressive public school in the viewer's mind, as does the dialogue and portrayal of the hierarchical structure of British society, represented by the school.
While 'If...' was a significant product of its time, it still nonetheless has the power to shock the viewer, particularly if they are survivors of the public school system. While violent and amusing at the same time, both of these aspects being very well balanced, it is a very enjoyable movie. Highly recommended.
15 out of 23 people found the following comment useful :-

Anti-establishment masterpiece, 28 September 1999
Author: Shawn Taber (filmbuffshawn@netscape.net) from Rock Forest, Quebec
This is one of the greatest films ever made, period! I've seen it at least 10 times, and it still manages to captivate me. The theme of trying to break away from the establishment is universal. This is also the pinnacle of the British "angry young man" films. This surrealist wake up call is not to be missed.
9 out of 12 people found the following comment useful :-

Grab a gun and shoot the establishment - If...., 14 February 2005
Author: Simon Rickards from United Kingdom
When If.. was re-released at the end of the 1990s, it came with the slogan: 'An Anarchist's Punk Dream!' This certainly summarises the film's main ethos, in which revolution and the dream of blowing up the old school master is a dream of every anti-social English school boy. MacDowel is superb in this film, and he apparently landed the gig for A Clockwork Orange through Kubrick watching this film several times. The direction is also brilliant by Lyndsey Anderson, who unfortunately never amounted to much after this. If you're interested in the changing attitudes of English society during the 1960's then watch if..., as there's no better illustration. One of the all time British classics, with a bizarre sequel called 'Oh Lucky Man'.
12 out of 18 people found the following comment useful :-
As if the Speed of the Nail would matter..., 1 August 2004
Author: youngmurray from Brooklyn, New York
Lindsay Anderson's 1968 film If... is a beautiful film with a simple message, yet the director's touch and the performances take it to entirely different level.
If... takes place in all boys boarding school and stars Malcolm McDowell as
"Mick" (McDowell in his first screen role). Mick and his two friends feel
somewhat distant from their peers, school, and society. Their general attitude towards such things as sex, war, and authority could be call revolutionary. With surrealistic touches such as unexplained occurrences and changing between
color and black and white. Lindsay Anderson paints a vivid picture of "teenage alienation" before there was a term for such a thing. McDowell would later reprise his role of "Mick" in two other Anderson pictures O' Lucky Man and Britannia Hospital. A must see for fans of McDowell. Just a great film with a message that sparks positive, pro-active thinking. An important film that makes you remember to question authority instead complying to it rules. Sadly If... is not available on DVD at this time.
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